Player Discussion Nylander After the Contract

[DraftSchmaft]

This is a strange situation with Nylander. He woke up with an injury one morning? My B.S. meter is going off the charts with this one. I'm not saying anything crazy like he was benched. But I'm not believing this story either. What kind of injury do you just wake up with one morning? Back spasms maybe? He's kind of young for back spasms and never heard of him having back issues either. I would have believed the flu or something but then they came up with this he woke up with an injury thing.

He was most likely injured for a while but downplayed it. He pretty much coasted the last few weeks which suggests he was staying within physical limitations and not actually coasting because he decided he doesn't want to try anymore.

Could be a cross road where they're like, do we play him and risk him being a coaster for the entire playoffs, or let him get to 100% to dominate games.

 

[Niagara Bill]

This is a strange situation with Nylander. He woke up with an injury one morning? My B.S. meter is going off the charts with this one. I'm not saying anything crazy like he was benched. But I'm not believing this story either. What kind of injury do you just wake up with one morning? Back spasms maybe? He's kind of young for back spasms and never heard of him having back issues either. I would have believed the flu or something but then they came up with this he woke up with an injury thing.

The last reg game he played like he was pissed, didn't care. He never made contact.
Was he injured, sick, if so wtf was he dressed. Or why wasn't he benched during game to protect him.
Something is fishy. Is this about team leaders not on same page.
He is his father's son. Wears his emotions.

 

[SprDaVE]

You don't actually think they'd tell you he got benched do you?

If you think game 1 of the playoffs is a good time to start benching your star player or even something they would do... There's nothing I can say that will change your mind. It's really absurd but if you think it's the only logical reason, then you go nuts my dude.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

If you think game 1 of the playoffs is a good time to start benching your star player... There's nothing I can say that will change your mind. You made your mind up about it.

It's not the best of times, it's not the worst of times.

But yeah, you're probably right, after eight years why would they start holding anyone accountable now.

 

[SprDaVE]

This is a strange situation with Nylander. He woke up with an injury one morning? My B.S. meter is going off the charts with this one. I'm not saying anything crazy like he was benched. But I'm not believing this story either. What kind of injury do you just wake up with one morning? Back spasms maybe? He's kind of young for back spasms and never heard of him having back issues either. I would have believed the flu or something but then they came up with this he woke up with an injury thing.

Sometimes you pull something and the next day you can't really run on it properly. There could be a bunch of different things that happened between the game and the following day.

I don't understand why it has to be some conspiracy.

 

[Shooter2x]

Anyone notice how strict Nylander has become? If you do something low IQ he rips you a new one.

You could hear F bombs through the TV when McMann didn't sauce the tap-in after Nylander put on the Jets to get open.

100% he was injured for a while. He's no longer an immature little boy. This dude wants to win.

You can see the frustration and annoyance on his face the past few weeks from not doing what he wants to do. It's killing him to not dominate right now.

 

[ruaware41]

If you think game 1 of the playoffs is a good time to start benching your star player or even something they would do... There's nothing I can say that will change your mind. It's really absurd but if you think it's the only logical reason, then you go nuts my dude.

God I hate it so much when people show poor comprehension like this. Nowhere in his posts did he say he thinks it's a good time to do so. He's also not the one making roster decisions

 

[hamzarocks]

If he doesnt play game 2 its crazy how selfish he was/keefe was to let him play the last 2 games of the year

f*** 100 pts. We need our 3rd best player (often 2nd in the playoffs) if we want to win this series.

He needs to play game 2 even if at 75%

 

[Menzinger]

This is a strange situation with Nylander. He woke up with an injury one morning? My B.S. meter is going off the charts with this one. I'm not saying anything crazy like he was benched. But I'm not believing this story either. What kind of injury do you just wake up with one morning? Back spasms maybe? He's kind of young for back spasms and never heard of him having back issues either. I would have believed the flu or something but then they came up with this he woke up with an injury thing.

This is obviously anecdotal, but I've injured my knee and ankle before(separate occasions) where the discomfort/pain didn't become noticable until several hours after the initial incident occured. The human body can be a strange thing

I think it's fair to speculate if this is tied to a lingering issue. But the only official reporting we've seen so far has said it started Thursday. So we're all in the dark until we get more info released (which likely isn't going to happen until after the playoffs lol)

 

[SprDaVE]

God I hate it so much when people show poor comprehension like this. Nowhere in his posts did he say he thinks it's a good time to do so. He's also not the one making roster decisions

"My take on this is that Nylander got benched for dogging it to end the season." -- I guess I really do have poor comprehension. Dang.

It's called projection. Someone believes something so much that they think it's only logical explanation because that's what they would have done.

I do apologize for angering you with this though ruaware41.

 

[ruaware41]

"My take on this is that Nylander got benched for dogging it to end the season." -- I guess I really do have poor comprehension. Dang.

It's called projection. Someone believes something so much that they think it's only logical explanation because that's what they would have done.

I do apologize for angering you with this though ruaware41.

It's called an assumption on your end you're appealing to now bc of a disingenuous reply earlier. By your logic anytime anyone speculates on anything in a way you don't like you could just call it projection. It's very disingenuous. There's nothing implausible about someone not agreeing with him being benched but wondering if he was.

 

[Martin Skoula]

It’s pretty obvious what’s happening here.. Nylander is purposely sitting out to sabotage the team and make sure we lose so that Marner gets traded and he can force Treliving to pay his brother Marner’s cap space. Also Matthews missing goal number 70 was deliberate because he was actually trying to tell the city of Toronto to go **** itself. Dubas and Mirtle are orchestrating all of this from behind the scenes.

 

[SprDaVE]

It's called an assumption on your end you're appealing to now bc of a disingenuous reply earlier. By your logic anytime anyone speculates on anything in a way you don't like you could just call it projection. It's very disingenuous. There's nothing implausible about someone not agreeing with him being benched but wondering if he was.

How is it an assumption when they have said it's an injury, or in their own words "discomfort"? What am I missing here?

Yeah... I'm the one that is disingenuous and unreasonable.

 

[leafsfan5]

My take on this is that Nylander got benched for dogging it to end the season.

That would explain why Keefe wasn't concerned about Nylander's performance. Nothing to be concerned about if he isn't even playing. Maybe sitting the first game will light a fire under his ass.

This reminds me of the Matthews benching in oh so many ways.

It's even the same lame excuse. Too sore to play one game. Too sore. To play. One game.

One. Game.

Sounds crazy I know.

But sounds less crazy than the bullshit story they're trying to feed us. Like I'm sooooo sure Nylander called Keefe up and told him the Absorbine Jr wasn't working. So Keefe told him to go home and rub his sore body down in A535 and rest up.

Don't worry about the game.

Benching our superstar winger, who ups his performance in the playoffs, because he didn't care about meaningless games 80-82 is such an insane viewpoint

He's hurt, let's hope he's back in time or we might be screwed

 

[ruaware41]

How is it an assumption when they have said it's an injury, or in their own words "discomfort"? What am I missing here?

Yeah... I'm the one that disingenuous and unreasonable.

have they said it's an injury? His whole point is if they did bench him they wouldn't necessarily come out and say that.

 

[SprDaVE]

have they said it's an injury? His whole point is if they did bench him they wouldn't necessarily come out and say that.

First, Keefe is under strict instructions not to reveal any details on injuries. All he said is that Nylander felt discomfort and left it at that. Same for McMann.



Insiders have provided this:






My whole point is hiding the fact they benched their star player in the first game of the playoffs by saying he's basically injured is pretty wild when he played the entire game 82. Believe what you want I guess though.

 

[Janvonpobben]

The last reg game he played like he was pissed, didn't care. He never made contact.
Was he injured, sick, if so wtf was he dressed. Or why wasn't he benched during game to protect him.
Something is fishy. Is this about team leaders not on same page.
He is his father's son. Wears his emotions.

omg can you stop the stupid narrative about his father. Michael always said yes to Team Sweden and was never a headache for the national team. All stories are fabricated in a stupid way.

 

[ruaware41]

First, Keefe is under strict instructions not to reveal any details on injuries. All he said is that Nylander felt discomfort and left it at that. Same for McMann.



Insiders have provided this:






My whole point is hiding the fact they benched their star player in the first game of the playoffs by saying he's basically injured is pretty wild when he played the entire game 82. Believe what you want I guess though.

Insiders are hit or miss it was my understanding too that Keefe would be tight lipped about it.

I understand the point you are making. If they did in fact do that it would be pretty wild but there's reason to believe they've done it in the past although in the regular season with a different player and it's hard not to speculate on it when Nylander seems to have been remarkably healthy for years and almost never misses a game

 

[Willchel Marlynder]

Glad I missed game 1 but Nylander being out is weird. If there was ANY potential issues in the regular season wtf was he playing for? Especially after seeing how ineffective he looked..... Should have rested him the past 2 or so games.

 

[Niagara Bill]

omg can you stop the stupid narrative about his father. Michael always said yes to Team Sweden and was never a headache for the national team. All stories are fabricated in a stupid way.

Never said Micheal was a problem.

 

[SprDaVE]

 

[notDatsyuk]

My take on this is that Nylander got benched for dogging it to end the season.

That would explain why Keefe wasn't concerned about Nylander's performance. Nothing to be concerned about if he isn't even playing. Maybe sitting the first game will light a fire under his ass.

This reminds me of the Matthews benching in oh so many ways.

It's even the same lame excuse. Too sore to play one game. Too sore. To play. One game.

One. Game.

Sounds crazy I know.

But sounds less crazy than the bullshit story they're trying to feed us. Like I'm sooooo sure Nylander called Keefe up and told him the Absorbine Jr wasn't working. So Keefe told him to go home and rub his sore body down in A535 and rest up.

Don't worry about the game.

Wouldn't it have made a lot more sense to bench him for the last couple of regular season games, to keep him from hitting 100, and have him motivated (and playing) in the playoffs?

 

[Menzinger]

Great news.

 

[Menzinger]

A few related bits on the Nylander update

 

[socko]

Maybe it really was just the flu and the Leafs are keeping it secret so he can more easily breathe on Marchand and Pasta during game 2.