General Prospect Discussion (2023-24)

[majormajor]

Mainly Parekh, Catton, and Buium

I watched this game vid of Buium and he's my favorite of the D so far.



He's a better decision maker than any of Dickinson, Silayev, or Levshunov.

I watched a Parekh game earlier in the year and I wasn't impressed. He didn't seem to have any D technique at all.

 

[The Marquis]

Mainly Parekh, Catton, and Buium

None of these are real last names, you just made them up.

 

[sigma six]

Catton or Buium would be dreamy, and do appear to be within reach at this point. I could picture Catton going even earlier than the mocks I've seen, however.

There's a part of me that would like to see Francis get us into position to take Eiserman. That kid just shoots and scores and shoots and scores... we really could use some of that on the wing, particularly as guys like Eberle age out. Just imagine him on Matty's left.

 

[majormajor]

Catton or Buium would be dreamy, and do appear to be within reach at this point. I could picture Catton going even earlier than the mocks I've seen, however.

There's a part of me that would like to see Francis get us into position to take Eiserman. That kid just shoots and scores and shoots and scores... we really could use some of that on the wing, particularly as guys like Eberle age out. Just imagine him on Matty's left.

Eiserman might fall too. He's not a fun player for scouts to focus on, plays like he doesn't care for 90% of his ice time, then he looks like Brett Hull for the rest. Actually I've heard Eiserman compared to Hull because that is what Hull did too, he was very unimpressive most shifts and then bang.

I wouldn't take the order on the public lists too seriously this early. We have no idea where guys like Buium or Silayev will go. Catton might slip past ten, as small forwards tend to do.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

Eiserman might fall too. He's not a fun player for scouts to focus on, plays like he doesn't care for 90% of his ice time, then he looks like Brett Hull for the rest. Actually I've heard Eiserman compared to Hull because that is what Hull did too, he was very unimpressive most shifts and then bang.

I wouldn't take the order on the public lists too seriously this early. We have no idea where guys like Buium or Silayev will go. Catton might slip past ten, as small forwards tend to do.

The comparison for Eiserman has been mostly Patrik Laine.
A guy with the potential to score 40- 50 every year but dissapears quite often and doesn't really show his full potential.

But, of course, he's very young so you never fully know what the kids going to end up looking like as a pro.

 

[majormajor]

The comparison for Eiserman has been mostly Patrik Laine.
A guy with the potential to score 40- 50 every year but dissapears quite often and doesn't really show his full potential.

But, of course, he's very young so you never fully know what the kids going to end up looking like as a pro.

He fits the caricature of Laine's game, I can see that, but I don't think the players have any resemblance in how they actually play.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

He fits the caricature of Laine's game, I can see that, but I don't think the players have any resemblance in how they actually play.

Well, the reports are talking about a winger with great scoring ability that just doesn't show up consistantly enough.

The latter part is the reason for the Lainer comparison cause Laine, on paper, has everything to be a consistant 40 - 50 goal scorer in this league but just isn't consistant enough.

 

[majormajor]

Well, the reports are talking about a winger with great scoring ability that just doesn't show up consistantly enough.

The latter part is the reason for the Lainer comparison cause Laine, on paper, has everything to be a consistant 40 - 50 goal scorer in this league but just isn't consistant enough.

Some key differences to point out - Laine has what I would call month to month inconsistency. He once scored 18 goals in a November a few years back! He's also scored zero in some months. At least in the last few years he's been a consistent player without the puck, backchecks very well, etc...

Eiserman has not to my knowledge had a terrible scoring drought. He has been a consistent goal scorer for the NTDP team. But he doesn't show up shift to shift. When the other club has the puck he's a non factor.

 

[majormajor]

We got a good one:

 

[The Marquis]

Awesome

 

[majormajor]

Zeev Buium's older brother Shai is likely available from the Red Wings.

There's a main board thread on it.

They have a ton of LD ahead of him on their depth chart so it's likely he won't sign with the Wings at the end of his college career.

He's 6'3, very mobile, good defender, good shot, can play with skill but I wouldn't say he's very dynamic. Seems like he might have middle pair upside.


The Kraken have okayish depth at LD but have room for more, in my opinion.

 

[majormajor]

We don't talk about David Goyette much. No one seems to talk about him at HF.

He is playing on a juggernaut offensive team, but regardless, any player scoring 117 pts in 67 OHL games ought to be talked about. Fantastic skill.

 

[majormajor]

 

[The Marquis]

Jugnauth vs Firkus in the WHL final.

 

[sigma six]

Jugnauth vs Firkus in the WHL final.

Love it. Going to the game this Saturday. Both teams are so skilled I can't wait to watch. Luckily for the Hawks, MJ does not have a goalie like Ravensbergen.

 

[The Marquis]

Love it. Going to the game this Saturday. Both teams are so skilled I can't wait to watch. Luckily for the Hawks, MJ does not have a goalie like Ravensbergen.

I also think the Hawks could muscle their way through just on toughness alone. They are playoff built.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Love it. Going to the game this Saturday. Both teams are so skilled I can't wait to watch. Luckily for the Hawks, MJ does not have a goalie like Ravensbergen.

I am really curious about what you think about Jugnauth. I know it's one game, but I have read really good things about him on the boards.

 

[sigma six]

I am really curious about what you think about Jugnauth. I know it's one game, but I have read really good things about him on the boards.

He hasn't been with PDX very long, so my views are not numerous... want to say he came over from Wisconsin after the hawks got his rights from Kamloops this past winter. What I've seen from him in person so far is that he likes to be involved offensively and carry the puck up the ice. Did a good job keeping the play in the other end, too. He looks smart and composed, unlike some D who treat the puck like live ordinance he seems to relish driving play and being a distributor.

Not a big goal scorer, but an active part of the O nonetheless. Checked the stats page and he's 7g - 34a in 41 regular season games. I haven't seen enough to comment on how well he plays D, although I can't remember seeing him look like a liability. Doesn't strike me as particularly physical though. MJ has some high-powered forwards aside from Firkus, so I'll be watching his defensive game closely this weekend.

 

[sigma six]

Guess I could have picked a better game; Portland was outclassed in every way a team can be today.
Moose Jaw, in addition to just being faster was always exactly where they needed to be to break up attempts to gain the zone. Plenty of shots by PDX but almost all of them were of the non-threatening variety.

So, Jugnauth's game was pretty well stymied along with the rest of that team. Saw some nice passes from deep in the corner from him but the whole team got run over.

On the positive side, Jagger Firkus was also in the house and he was flying. Two goals one assist, was the good kind of noticeable more and more as the game went on. He can agitate a bit, too. Size may be the knock against him, but there are successful guys his size in the NHL. Wouldn't be surprised if he turns out like they have.