Salary Cap: Pens 2024 Summer Thread: "Thus, knocking us out of these superior numbers when we emerge! Mr. President, we must not allow a non-playoff bound gap!"

[Pancakes]

We should put together an all crackhead line with Nuke, Stevens, and Malone.

 

[Andy99]

Cirelli is an overpaid 3rd liner/ 2nd line tweener.

He’s overpaid but he’s a much better player than Kot…also we’ll need someone, maybe as soon as this season depending on Geno, who can play 2C, and he can…I’d rather have Hagel as a player but he’s not a center and likely not available

 

[Gurglesons]

He’s overpaid but he’s a much better player than Kot…also we’ll need someone, maybe as soon as this season depending on Geno, who can play 2C, and he can…I’d rather have Hagel as a player but he’s not a center and likely not available

I mean he is, but you are likely paying a pick for him and taking him on full value adding him to our current cap picture. It basically would be your only move and you would be going bargain bin hunting for a LHD.

 

[Andy99]

I mean he is, but you are likely paying a pick for him and taking him on full value adding him to our current cap picture. It basically would be your only move and you would be going bargain bin hunting for a LHD.

With Cirelli’s contract I doubt we’d have to pay much to get him, especially without retention…if we can trade Smith for a pick and not retain, we’d have enough money for both

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I mean... not that the Penguins can do much better or are likely to even put in the effort to try but what in the world does this team need another 40ish point overpaid forward for, anyway? We tryin' to catch 'em all or something?

 

[Ugene Magic]

With Cirelli’s contract I doubt we’d have to pay much to get him, especially without retention…if we can trade Smith for a pick and not retain, we’d have enough money for both

Term kills anything, and the fact he makes more than all of Rust, Rakell and Smith is just paying for the fact he was to 3 straight finals with another team.

Let them keep him.

 

[chethejet]

If Smith is moved and Dubas has 17 million of space, I overpay for Stephenson, Then RW is either Puustinen, or JesseP. Acciari can be back or moved as part of a deal. Lets say Sid is here for 3 years with last 2 at 10 AAV, Pens have cap space especially moving off Karlsson for a top young player and pick.

Stephenson Sid Rust 17M
Bunting Geno Rakell 16M
Doc Eller Puustinen 4M
Poulin Pono Acciari 4M
JesseP

Graves Letang 11.5M
Petts Karlsson 14M
Ludvig ST Ivany 1.5M

Jarry 5.3M
Bloom 750K

Total 75 million

 

[Darren McCord]

Someone's going to take a chance on Nichushkin for nothing and reap the rewards. Just don't ever complain about our wingers when it happens.

It won’t happen, so I won’t be, don’t worry about it.

 

[Ugene Magic]

The Pens safe call regarding center is signing Elias Lindholm.

No assets required.

 

[Gurglesons]

St Ivany at 775 x 3 is potential steal.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

We should put together an all crackhead line with Nuke, Stevens, and Malone.

What's Kuznetsov up to these days?

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Busy day for Dubas.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

When Marner's contract ends in like 2032 this franchise will hopefully be on the upswing. Once Sid and Geno are gone in a few seasons, doesn't really matter who is or isn't on the books. I'm not saying sign 5 of these types of players, but 1 long term contract doesn't bother me.

It limits our flexibility to accumulate picks. We need to use that money to take on bad contracts in exchange for them.

That upswing has to have a foundation built for it at some point.

 

[ThosePuckingPenguins]

That St. Ivany deal could be great. Better version of Ruhwedel.

 

[Andy99]

The Pens safe call regarding center is signing Elias Lindholm.

No assets required.

Too old imo

 

[Empoleon8771]

Yeah getting 3 years of term with St. Ivany is great, really happy with that one.

 

[Andy99]

I mean... not that the Penguins can do much better or are likely to even put in the effort to try but what in the world does this team need another 40ish point overpaid forward for, anyway? We tryin' to catch 'em all or something?

Because Mike “the god” Sullivan is here for another three years and he doesn’t like really skilled offensive guys who score a lot of goals and don’t PK, and those players tend to become 40 point players under him anyhow…

 

[Empoleon8771]

The defense could be shaping up really nicely if the Penguins can get a good LD partner for Letang. I really like Graves-St. Ivany as the 3rd pair on paper and Pettersson-Karlsson will be great (as long as Karlsson limits the moronic mistakes). They just need a good LD for Letang, which they don't have in the system right now.

That's way easier said than done, though. They basically need another Pettersson to play with Letang.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Because Mike “the god” Sullivan is here for another three years and he doesn’t like really skilled offensive guys who score a lot of goals and don’t PK, and those players tend to become 40 point players under him anyhow…

If the idea is to slide a new center into 2C to "help" Malkin I guess I don't understand why you'd get one who is worse AND more expensive.

Like you implied it doesn't much matter regardless.

Sidebar: just to echo everyone else... like that St. Ivany deal a lot.

 

[Gurglesons]

The defense could be shaping up really nicely if the Penguins can get a good LD partner for Letang. I really like Graves-St. Ivany as the 3rd pair on paper and Pettersson-Karlsson will be great (as long as Karlsson limits the moronic mistakes). They just need a good LD for Letang, which they don't have in the system right now.

That's way easier said than done, though. They basically need another Pettersson to play with Letang.

Ideal:
Hague for Smith at 50% + 2nd (Seems like somewhat of an overpay.)

Settle:
McNabb for Smith at 50%
Ferraro for 2nd + 4th
Sebastian Aho at 2.5-3 mil x 2

Reality:
Overpay Brenden Dillon and I kill myself.

I would also bring in Troy Stecher on a cheap one year deal so we aren't just giving St Ivany the gig.

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

Filip Kral, from Toronto.

I mean, Dubas knows he doesn't HAVE to bring in familiarity from Toronto, right?

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

Dooby Dooby Dubois getting his f*** on early and shit this summer, that's what the f*** he's doing, doot doot doot.

 

[Andy99]

If the idea is to slide a new center into 2C to "help" Malkin I guess I don't understand why you'd get one who is worse AND more expensive.

Like you implied it doesn't much matter regardless.

Sidebar: just to echo everyone else... like that St. Ivany deal a lot.

Probably because we’re not getting anyone better than Geno…we can dream that Yager develops into one but I don’t see getting anyone as good or better in the trade market

 

[Gurglesons]

If the idea is to slide a new center into 2C to "help" Malkin I guess I don't understand why you'd get one who is worse AND more expensive.

Like you implied it doesn't much matter regardless.

Sidebar: just to echo everyone else... like that St. Ivany deal a lot.

If we can get Lindholm and slot him with Malkin, I'd do it.

The issue is term and cost.

I honestly would overpay for Lindholm if we could get him on a short deal. Say 7.5-8 x 4.

 

[Ulf5]

Filip Kral, from Toronto.

I mean, Dubas knows he doesn't HAVE to bring in familiarity from Toronto, right?

WBS fodder. Have like 1 D signed.