Series Talk: WCF: Dallas Stars vs Edmonton Oilers (EDM Leads 3-2)

[SeanAveryTheGreatOne]

Who y'all got?!
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Dallas Stars (1C) vs. Edmonton Oilers (2P)​

Western Conference Final

Game 1: Oilers at Stars -- May 23, 8:30 p.m. ET (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, CBC, TVAS)
Game 2: Oilers at Stars -- May 25, 8 p.m. ET (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, CBC, TVAS)
Game 3: Stars at Oilers -- May 27, 8:30 p.m. ET (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, CBC, TVAS)
Game 4: Stars at Oilers -- May 29, 8:30 p.m. ET (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, CBC, TVAS)
+ Game 5: Oilers at Stars -- May 31, TBD (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, TVAS)
+ Game 6: Stars at Oilers -- June 2, TBD (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, TVAS)
+ Game 7: Oilers at Stars -- June 4, TBD (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, CBC, TVAS)
+ if necessary ​

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[LT]

Oilers struggle against certain play styles. I think Dallas plays the exact type of game the Oilers want to play. Oilers are beatable when teams stack their bluelines and collapse on net. Oh and when teams can kill penalties.

I think the Stars goaltending is pretty mid. If they want to get into a scoring battle with McDavid and the Oilers good luck

That's exactly what Dallas is so good at, clogging the neutral zone to force low risk zone entries and clearing the slot so Oettinger has clear sight lines on shots. This has been readily apparent the last two rounds. Vegas and Colorado fans both complained about their teams looking like they weren't trying hard enough, but it was because Dallas took away almost every single easy play and forced their opponents to be perfect on zone entries and offensive zone set-ups in order to generate offense.

I don't know what to tell you if you think Dallas goaltending isn't superior to Edmonton's. There's absolutely no logical reason to think that based on these playoffs so far or longer histories from seasons ago. For the last 25 games or so, Oetting has been elite, a top 5 goalie in the league. He's had a few poor games, but that's just the nature of the position.

There is no world where a coach would prefer Skinner in net compared to Oettinger right now. Anything you think Edmonton scorers can take advantage of goaltending wise, Dallas can do likewise and probably even moreso.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

That's exactly what Dallas is so good at, clogging the neutral zone to force low risk zone entries and clearing the slot so Oettinger has clear sight lines on shots. This has been readily apparent the last two rounds. Vegas and Colorado fans both complained about their teams looking like they weren't trying hard enough, but it was because Dallas took away almost every single easy play and forced their opponents to be perfect on zone entries and offensive zone set-ups in order to generate offense.

I don't know what to tell you if you think Dallas goaltending isn't superior to Edmonton's. There's absolutely no logical reason to think that based on these playoffs so far or longer histories from seasons ago. For the last 25 games or so, Oetting has been elite, a top 5 goalie in the league. He's had a few poor games, but that's just the nature of the position.

There is no world where a coach would prefer Skinner in net compared to Oettinger right now. Anything you think Edmonton scorers can take advantage of goaltending wise, Dallas can do likewise and probably even moreso.

LA was good at clogging the neutral zone too.

 

[EchoesoftheEighties]

Head says Dallas in 6
Heart says Oil in 6

Should be a fun one

 

[TheNumber4]

Hey Dallas fans, how does it feel to have all these new fans bow down and worship your team like they are gods amongst men?

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So that’s how Marner feels

 

[Cup or Bust]

I think the Oilers can compete well with any team in the league right now in a 7 game series because of how they are playing defensively but my biggest worry is Skinner unless the Oilers can continue only giving up 5 or 6 shots a period. If he is awful in game one I hope they change it up quick for game two. I never expected Skinner to be great in the playoffs (or anytime) but he has been even worse then my lowest expectations. I am hoping he can at least give the Oilers some kind of consistent, average goaltending going forward.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I think the Oilers can compete well with any team in the league right now in a 7 game series because of how they are playing defensively but my biggest worry is Skinner unless the Oilers can continue only giving up 5 or 6 shots a period. If he is awful in game one I hope they change it up quick for game two. I never expected Skinner to be great in the playoffs (or anytime) but he has been even worse then my lowest expectations. I am hoping he can at least give the Oilers some kind of consistent, average goaltending going forward.

one thing that Knoblauch is better at than Woodcroft was is making adjustments game to game.

He's willing to go to Pickard if Skinner is struggling, willing to sit a Cup winner in Perry for not performing, willing to play Ekholm big minutes even if it hurts Nurse's feelings, willing to bench McLeod for making a bad turnover that led to a goal.

This is going to be a tough series for Edmonton, but I really don't think it'll be a walk at all.

 

[roryjones]

one thing that Knoblauch is better at than Woodcroft was is making adjustments game to game.

He's willing to go to Pickard if Skinner is struggling, willing to sit a Cup winner in Perry for not performing, willing to play Ekholm big minutes even if it hurts Nurse's feelings, willing to bench McLeod for making a bad turnover that led to a goal.

This is going to be a tough series for Edmonton, but I really don't think it'll be a walk at all.

And DeBoer will do all those same things…to Nils Lundkvist only to limit his ice time.

 

[Spotty 2 Hotty]

Honest question. I keep seeing Dallas fans with this ‘we deserve it’ slogan. I assume it is the Stanley Cup that fans feel they deserve. Where does this come from? And why do Dallas fans feel their team or their fans deserve a Cup?

Because. We. Do.

Also it's honestly just really fun to lean into the over-the-top obnoxiousness of it. And why wouldn't any fan of a team who finished in a top spot feel like they deserve it? lol

 

[Zaar]

I love how everyone knows how this series ends before the first game is played. I wished, I had your crystal gem (even though there seem to be several different versions available). I expect a close series and since I'm rooting for the Oilers I voted EDM in 7. Crossing fingers! We'll find out.

 

[gretzkyoilers]

Head says Dallas in 6
Heart says Oil in 6

Should be a fun one

Head says Oilers in 7
Heart says Oilers in 5

 

[gretzkyoilers]

I love how everyone knows how this series ends before the first game is played. I wished, I had your crystal gem (even though there seem to be several different versions available). I expect a close series and since I'm rooting for the Oilers I voted EDM in 7. Crossing fingers! We'll find out.

I remember how I thought that the San Jose were going to steamroll Pittsburgh because of the roster, their size, etc. Didn't work that way. Let's see after game 1 or 2 then revisit....

 

[oconnor9sean]

I got an sneak peak of Benn's speech to the boys about the Oilers.

I’m not gonna read 26 pages to see if it’s been clarified, but this was from 2020 when Dallas was about to face Vegas in Round 3.

 

[Coffey]

That poster posts suspiciously similar to Jordan belfort.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Gonna be so quiet on hf when edmonton wins this series, haters might finally call it quits

IF Edmonton wins the cup I can’t wait for the utter meltdown this “McDavid will never win a Cup the way he plays” crowd will have on HF

 

[Dynamite Time]

You should be over in the trade boards working on improving your team. Have a great summer.

Oh boy, old school rivalry here we go.

 

[gretzkyoilers]

I’m not gonna read 26 pages to see if it’s been clarified, but this was from 2020 when Dallas was about to face Vegas in Round 3.

Yup. They did beat Vegas...have not heard any quote from Benn recently about the Oilers....

 

[eartotheground]

IF Edmonton wins the cup I can’t wait for the utter meltdown this “McDavid will never win a Cup the way he plays” crowd will have on HF

win or lose there'll be an 8 million post thread about him 30 min after the final horn.

 

[Coffey]

Not wild. Just concerned for his health. Being a good concerned citizen here. His head seems to be off and he may want it checked out.

Nothing wrong with cheering for your team.

 

[dem]

I think some people may be discounting the effect the Oilers special teams may have on this series..

 

[winnipegger]

I can't believe conventional wisdom is against Mcd Drai and Bouch. These players can win a series. Old man Benn will be yelling at lots of clouds.

 

[Sniper99]

Are you talking in riddles?

Nope

 

[Satoru Gojo]

Yeah Edmonton isn't as deep as Dallas (no one maybe is)

Oilers depth though is pretty underrated

This is not a two man show like so many on here believe lol

 

[LTIR]

Dallas in 6 but hopefully the Oilers steal one of the first 2 in Dallas to make it exciting.

Stars have had a tough tough path to the cup, Vegas, COL, EDM and whoever they get in finals.

 

[kanadalainen]

But what about Pickard? My money is that we see Pickard again this series.

 

[ManofSteel55]

And what earth are you on that your goalie is any good? Vegas has much better goaltending than Edmonton.


Care to elaborate? Where is the bad match up?

Did I say our goalie is good? Nope. You may want to re-read it if that's what you took from what I said. I said Vegas' goalie stole a good portion of the series against Edmonton last year, and he hasn't been nearly as good this year. Vegas is getting overrated because they're 20M over the salary cap. They wouldn't have been an easy out, but they wouldn't have walked over Edmonton like you are suggesting either.

Oilers played well but Vancouver shit the bed. Don't see that happening with Dallas.

Personally I had Dallas, Vegas, and Colorado as the west favorites before playoffs (Did not expect them to end up in WC2). Dallas beating both is very impressive.

Every time the Oilers beat someone, you Flames fans sit back and say the other team shit the bed. Maybe they were just dominated by Edmonton in game 6 and 7. Maybe they were lucky to get two of the wins they got. As far as 7 game series go, it was pretty lopsided.