Online Series: Fallout (Amazon, April 10, 2024)

[NyQuil]

I was shocked when I saw Rapaport I literally laughed out loud and my wife was so confused why, I was expecting some tough badass guy lol.

I can see how the use of the BoS as comic relief might land poorly among some viewers, particularly gamers who are pre-disposed to their kick-ass, stoic and somewhat fascist stratocracy.

It's a bit like the Warhammer 40K universe where some people actually buy into the Imperium of Man's violent religious fanaticism and others recognize that they are not meant to be idolized but are in fact just as reprehensible as the other factions (by design). Another example is the military-led society in Verhoeven's Starship Troopers.

Personallly, I didn't mind it, because the tone of the show is meant to reflect the juxtaposition of dark humour with the horror of post-apocalyptic existence that is very much a part of the games.

I do hope they bring a little more balance to the portrayal in subsequent seasons. The BoS are a bit of a deus ex machina, bringing their advanced technology, weaponry and training to bear only when absolutely necessary. Whether a threat or an ally, at some point the show runners have to demonstrate to the viewer that they are not to be trifled with.

 

[John Price]

I finished episode 2, went to episode 3 and was bombarded with an ad for laundry.

Why the f*** should I care about that shit? Get to the show.

 

[Hint1k]

Watched couple episodes. It is kinda boring so far. The only thing made me interested - the actor from the Person of Interest. He even plays the same character type (eccentric scientist) and also has a dog.
Is it going to get better after 2nd episode or it stays the same?

 

[HoseEmDown]

Think you might be done by Christmas?

Those side quests hit hard sometimes.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

I finished episode 2, went to episode 3 and was bombarded with an ad for laundry.

Why the f*** should I care about that shit? Get to the show.

One thing I've learned is that chicks really dig guys whose clothes smell good. Especially when she has to wear your collared shirt and pajamas home the next morning instead of her dress.

 

[Canadiens Ghost]

Watched couple episodes. It is kinda boring so far. The only thing made me interested - the actor from the Person of Interest. He even plays the same character type (eccentric scientist) and also has a dog.
Is it going to get better after 2nd episode or it stays the same?

I thought it was a good show but If you didn't like the first 2 episodes and the only thing interesting you is the actor, you may as well move on.

 

[Osprey]

Watched couple episodes. It is kinda boring so far. The only thing made me interested - the actor from the Person of Interest. He even plays the same character type (eccentric scientist) and also has a dog.
Is it going to get better after 2nd episode or it stays the same?

I felt similarly about the first couple of episodes and not much has changed after 5 episodes, unfortunately.

 

[NinjaKick]

I can't believe they turned such a grim, bleak, serious, dark, gritty and violent video game series into a comedy... maybe because of the marvel movies?

had to shut it off after episode 3. f*** off.

 

[Blender]

I can't believe they turned such a grim, bleak, serious, dark, gritty and violent video game series into a comedy... maybe because of the marvel movies?

had to shut it off after episode 3. f*** off.

Is this a serious comment? The games have always been satirical. New Vegas especially is hilarious.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

Was good, cant wait for season two. Was surprised at the New Vegas ending

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

I can't believe they turned such a grim, bleak, serious, dark, gritty and violent video game series into a comedy... maybe because of the marvel movies?

had to shut it off after episode 3. f*** off.

LOL

 

[HanSolo]

I don't know what you guys are talking about. Fallout is a super serious, bleak verging on depressing game series.

 

[NinjaKick]

Is this a serious comment? The games have always been satirical. New Vegas especially is hilarious.

absolutely there are satirical elements in the games... but ignore everything else I said about the games and lets focus on the comedy?

where's the mutated bot flies? they always freaked me out, but maybe they're not funny so lets not put them in the show? mudcrabs? deathclaws? super mutants? mirelurks? we do see a mutated cow for about 2 seconds... no butt hole shots though, I always check out the cows butt holes in the game, who's the artist behind that anyway? where's all the feral ghouls? they were absolutely terrifying and unpredictable in the game... oh wait that's not funny... what about the radscorpions and molerats that come up from the ground? fun to kill... but not so funny. remember being abducted by aliens? being probed can be funny... wheres the imbred redneck psycho killers from Point Lookout? they're kinda funny looking... lobotomized tribals who attack in swarms? hilarious. we get the Brotherhood of Steel (kinda p*ssies in the show btw) but where are all the other factions that murder each other for the tech? murder can be funny. remember the Mother of the Fog quest? definitely creepy, exploring the ruins of the Dunwich Borers with a immense sense of dread? Grandchester Mystery Mansion outside Nuka-World with that freaky ghost kid? where are those elements in the show?

there is one main ghoul in the show though... but of course he's a comedian...

oh well... glad you liked it and glad you found that the show captures all elements and feelings from the games...

 

[HanSolo]

absolutely there are satirical elements in the games... but ignore everything else I said about the games and lets focus on the comedy?

where's the mutated bot flies? they always freaked me out, but maybe they're not funny so lets not put them in the show? mudcrabs? deathclaws? super mutants? mirelurks? we do see a mutated cow for about 2 seconds... no butt hole shots though, I always check out the cows butt holes in the game, who's the artist behind that anyway? where's all the feral ghouls? they were absolutely terrifying and unpredictable in the game... oh wait that's not funny... what about the radscorpions and molerats that come up from the ground? fun to kill... but not so funny. remember being abducted by aliens? being probed can be funny... wheres the imbred redneck psycho killers from Point Lookout? they're kinda funny looking... lobotomized tribals who attack in swarms? hilarious. we get the Brotherhood of Steel (kinda p*ssies in the show btw) but where are all the other factions that murder each other for the tech? murder can be funny. remember the Mother of the Fog quest? definitely creepy, exploring the ruins of the Dunwich Borers with a immense sense of dread? Grandchester Mystery Mansion outside Nuka-World with that freaky ghost kid? where are those elements in the show?

there is one main ghoul in the show though... but of course he's a comedian...

oh well... glad you liked it and glad you found that the show captures all elements and feelings from the games...

How much budget and time do you think the show had? Also I've never seen a post on this subforum so desperate for memberberries. Then again the whole thing about buttholes I probably shouldn't be taking this post remotely seriously.

 

[NinjaKick]

I don't know what you guys are talking about. Fallout is a super serious, bleak verging on depressing game series.

that's one aspect of the games that no one denied....

what about a video of when you nuke megaton, dooming an entire population of innocent people and children to nuclear oblivion? that's not super serious, bleak verging or depressing... it's hilarious

what about a video of you being chased in a endless maze of underground tunnels by terrifying feral ghouls? they wanna cut your face off, wear it, and poke your corpse with a stick... sounds like a great time

How much budget and time do you think the show had?

Amazon’s ‘Fallout’ to Film Second Season in California With $25 Million Tax Credit

“Fallout” has the largest budget of any of the shows, at $153 million in qualified expenditures for the season

all of the budget and all of the source material...

but I guess the showrunners just decided to go a different route from the games? because?
that's ok, not my cup of tea and it's not fallout to me... I think I'll just stick with the games.

The Last of Us... now that's an adaption that nailed it.

 

[HanSolo]

that's one aspect of the games that no one denied....

what about a video of when you nuke megaton, dooming an entire population of innocent people and children to nuclear oblivion? that's not super serious, bleak verging or depressing... it's hilarious

what about a video of you being chased in a endless maze of underground tunnels by terrifying feral ghouls? they wanna cut your face off, wear it, and poke your corpse with a stick... sounds like a great time


Amazon’s ‘Fallout’ to Film Second Season in California With $25 Million Tax Credit


all of the budget and all of the source material...

but I guess the showrunners just decided to go a different route from the games? because?
that's ok, not my cup of tea and it's not fallout to me... I think I'll just stick with the games.

The Last of Us... now that's an adaption that nailed it.

Brother, I don't know what to tell you. Season 1 spent plenty of time focusing on the horrors of nuclear war and how civilization has been ravaged and changed by it. Just like the games did. And just like the games, they undercut everything with an irreverent sense of humor about things. Like if you actually stuck with it to the end you'd also get some horrific backstory on the Vault-Tec plan to utilize the Vaults for awful human experimentation but ay, they cracked wise a few times so the whole thing must be a clown show right?

As to budgeting and checking off the laundry list of fan service cameos/references you seem to think were necessary for a quality adaptation, you're ignoring that The Last of Us was a beat for beat and almost line for line live action adaptation of a story that was already told by the first game. A good one. Don't get me wrong. But Fallout (Amazon) is an original story which, outside the last minute of the show, takes place in a novel location, with novel characters, 7 years after the events of Fallout 4. You're asking a lot for them to include all these enemies and elements from other games in different stories to shoe horn in as much of it as possible in an eight hour serial while also telling a singular and cohesive story, much of which is centered around backstory with Vault-Tec, the creation of the Vaults, and pre-war backstory reflecting into the future. A lot of the elements you're whining about can easily be introduced in later series while keeping the core of this narrative universe at center in the first season.

Like if you didn't like it, you didn't like it, I'm not gonna convince you to like something you don't. But your rationale on a number of these points seems silly. Especially when it comes to knocking it as another in a long line of bad video game adaptations. What you're hoping to see in one season of a show of this scope and scale is just not feasible in live action. I guess you can always hold your breath for an anime adaptation one day.

 

[Beau Knows]

I always found Fallout more funny and satirical than grim and depressing. I guess you could argue that the show doesn't capture the same level of black humour as the games and that it's comedy is a little more lighthearted in general.

But the claim that Fallout shouldn't be so comedic, to me is a surprising one.

 

[John Price]

I am a bit disturbed at the gratuitous use of profanity but overall this show is decent.

I will say the knight and squire celebration after finding the head was hilarious and one of the best things I've seen so far

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

I am a bit disturbed at the gratuitous use of profanity but overall this show is decent.

I will say the knight and squire celebration after finding the head was hilarious and one of the best things I've seen so far

There's too much profanity in tv shows nowadays. Overdone and repetitive. And sex scenes. Bridgerton has way too many sex scenes. How can I watch this with my kids?

 

[NyQuil]

where's the mutated bot flies? they always freaked me out, but maybe they're not funny so lets not put them in the show? mudcrabs? deathclaws? super mutants? mirelurks? we do see a mutated cow for about 2 seconds... no butt hole shots though, I always check out the cows butt holes in the game, who's the artist behind that anyway? where's all the feral ghouls? they were absolutely terrifying and unpredictable in the game... oh wait that's not funny... what about the radscorpions and molerats that come up from the ground? fun to kill... but not so funny. remember being abducted by aliens? being probed can be funny... wheres the imbred redneck psycho killers from Point Lookout? they're kinda funny looking... lobotomized tribals who attack in swarms? hilarious. we get the Brotherhood of Steel (kinda p*ssies in the show btw) but where are all the other factions that murder each other for the tech? murder can be funny. remember the Mother of the Fog quest? definitely creepy, exploring the ruins of the Dunwich Borers with a immense sense of dread? Grandchester Mystery Mansion outside Nuka-World with that freaky ghost kid? where are those elements in the show?

Well, seeing as there's hundreds of hours of content in the games and like 8 hours of content in the series, maybe wait and see?

BTW, I just watched Star Wars: A New Hope, and it was disappointing.

Where are the speeder bikes and the AT-ATs? Where are the grand cities in the clouds and the giant planet capitals? Where are the Ewoks and the snowspeeders and the Wampas? Where is Yoda and any kind of force training? Where are the green lightsabers and Jabba and the big pit that the people fall into? Where is this Emperor I've been hearing so much about? Where is Boba Fett and all these bounty hunters that supposedly kick ass? Where are the asteroid fields and the space slugs and the TIE Bombers and the TIE Interceptors? Where are the giant fleet battles with huge capital ships shooting at each other?

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

I think you guys are being taken for a ride, seems obvious when he says Fallout isnt funny. Also he slipped and said no feral ghouls despite having an action scene killing feral ghouls

In a game where you have super mutatants acting silly and cracking jokes, someone saying a ghoul with humor isnt Fallout is clearly just trolling you

 

[Osprey]

The first Fallout was actually quite bleak and depressing. It wasn't until the following games that the series lightened up and became more hopeful.

 

[HanSolo]

The first Fallout was actually quite bleak and depressing. It wasn't until the following games that the series lightened up and became more hopeful.

I don't know if you've finished yet so I'll put most of my point in spoiler tags, but the show is pretty bleak even in spite of the comedic relief:

Spoiler

the theme of bleak hopelessness is pretty much front and center throughout the first season. Firstly, it's personified through Lucy who has spent her entire life cheerily expecting that her vault dwelling people will come up to the surface and set the example for the rest of society that lives on the surface. In short order she learns that all she learned on how to be the ideal citizen and impart her Vault's values for society to others are more or less useless on a surface populated by Raiders, cannibals, mutants, monsters and warring factions...she even learns that not every Vault is as idlyic as hers appears to be (at least she finds that Vault 4 is more or less peaceful if not aligned with her vision of an ideal society). She also learns that even in situations where the surface dwellers can form a functioning and proper society (Shady Sands), the vestiges of Vault-Tec (or some other force) will interfere and ruin it. Lucy is essentially told by Hank that because the civilization of Shady Sands was not propped up by the Vaults/Vault Tec, they were subject to be corrupted by the rest of the peoples of the Wasteland so he and Vault-Tec took it ion themselves to destroy (by nuke) what had been built and leave it to Vault-Tec to handle recivilizing humanity. On top of that, she has to grapple with the fact that her whole upbringing was a lie and her father, who she spent the whole site fighting to save, is an evil coward.

After her one dream for happiness (returning to the safety of the Vault with Maximus) is way laid by what she learns, she's not smiling anymore. She's not hopeful for the future anymore. She just wants to help the Ghoul in his mission against her father and Vault Tec.

Even the most "hopeful" thing that comes out of the first season, Moldaver succeeding at activating cold fusion and powering the Los Angeles grid, is not something that you can look at as a hopeful triumph because Moldaver and her people die at the hands of the Brotherhood, leaving the cold fusion power source in the hands of an organization that just wants to rule the Wasteland. And Maximus is going to have diminished ability to stop it exactly by virtue of suddenly coming into more power/favor with the Brotherhood than he wanted by the end of the show.

I'd also add that Lucy discovers that the Vaults, on the whole, were not intended to protect and insulate humanity from the radiation and threats on the surface but to experiment on humans, while her brother discovers that the core Vault-Tec plan is "wipe the surface clean" so Vault-Tec can rebuild (I'm assuming Vault 31-33 is more accurately waiting for the threats on the surface to wipe each other out/die out since they only nuked Shady Sands when it got big enough) but Norman ends up trapped with that information.

Ultimately nothing good happens by the end. Hank gets away. Moldaver dies. Maximus is stuck having to toe the line to accomplish anything with the Brotherhood's scrutiny on him sure to increase after being knighted against his will. Lucy I already explained. The Ghoul still hasn't found his family. Cold Fusion won't be used to help people. Nothing has improved the lives of surface dwellers.

The only inkling of hope to be found here is the hope that Lucy, Max, and the Ghoul can find a way to topple Vault Tec and the Brotherhood to be able to essentially hit the reset button on the Shady Sands vision of a surface society that isn't awful. For parallelism and irony, Lucy would be the leader (Overseer) of that society.