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What 10 centers were better than him in the late 90s, early 2000s? Cause I don't see how he's not a top 10 center in that timeframe where he had his best seasons.
Meh I remember him being lumped in all those centers you just listedI watched most of Modano's career.
He's way so overrated. Never was he ever considered a top 10 Center in his career. Even then maybe outside top 20 forwards.
Maybe it's unfair he played most of his career against Gretzky Messier Lemieux Francis Lindros Yzerman Sakic Forsberg Federov Gilmour Sundin
But for some reason it seems like a sin to knock him down a few pegs. For some stupid reason, he's retroactively being propped up post retirement.
But no, he wasn't THAT good. He was alright, but I'm not even sure I would consider him elite.
You have no idea what you’re talking aboutDepending on when they peaked or declined:
Sakic
Forsberg
Yzerman
Federov
Lemieux
Sundin
Gilmour
Francis
Oates
Lindros
Thornton
Gretzky was still better than him till 99
Messier was better until about 98
And even beyond that. That mini-era was punctuated by supremely talented wingers.
Jagr, Bure, Selanne, Kariya. Iginla, MSL,
There might have been a year or so he might have flirted with being top 10?
But even then, I think he might be in the tier of Elias, Richards, Lecavalier, Roenick,, Recchi, Shannahan, Hull, Alfredsson.
All really good player. But come on. He was nowhere close to winning any kind of hardware (cept maybe that Lady Trophy).
Depending on when they peaked or declined:
Sakic
Forsberg
Yzerman
Federov
Lemieux
Sundin
Gilmour
Francis
Oates
Lindros
Thornton
Gretzky was still better than him till 99
Messier was better until about 98
And even beyond that. That mini-era was punctuated by supremely talented wingers.
Jagr, Bure, Selanne, Kariya. Iginla, MSL,
There might have been a year or so he might have flirted with being top 10?
But even then, I think he might be in the tier of Elias, Richards, Lecavalier, Roenick,, Recchi, Shannahan, Hull, Alfredsson.
All really good player. But come on. He was nowhere close to winning any kind of hardware (cept maybe that Lady Trophy).
Just to add, from 1997 to 2003 (Modano's peak):Your posting just a bunch of nonsense. Modano was clearly a top 10 center in his prime from the mid to late 90's. He went head to head with Colorado and Detroit constantly in the playoffs and would be relied on to shutdown Sakic and Yzerman while also carrying a huge chunk of the offense.
Forsberg was obviously the better player, but it's not clear if he was more valuable, during this time period, given the huge disparity in games played.No one in their right mind would take Modano over Forsberg 1997-2003. Mats Sundin would at least be debatable, though he did it largely on his own while Modano had a ton of support.
My first reaction is that they are both really close but Imy gut feeling is that on a deep dive Kopitar comes out on top.Solid comparo, i will dig in a little more on them before i vote, flash reaction is that they are practically the same player
The History of Hockey board had them ranked 20 spots apart in an all-time list, with Modano ahead. It's certainly not an "insult."This is an insult to Modano that this was created and even funnier that he's losing.
A lot of very young people in these polls