OT: NBA & Basketball - 2023-24 Season

[mrmovies779]

Was a hell of a ride,but injuries killed this team.I'm still proud of the way they fought

 

[17futurecap]

Broken hand lmao, better off not having to get embarrassed by Boston.

 

[mrmovies779]

Fractured left hand for Brunson... the icing on the shit cake

 

[inranger94]

Not wishing injury on anyone but why is everyone on the pacers healthy?

 

[KevinFinnerty]

Brunson is done, season over was a great fight this playoffs.

 

[NCRanger]

This series ended when Carlisle whined about officiating.

This Game 7 has absolutely NO home court advantage.

 

[17futurecap]

Knicks were up 98-89 in game 3 with under 10 to go, they scored 8 points the rest of the game.

They could have put the dagger in Indiana and didn’t, that was the series.

 

[hi]

Pacers 0 might be the most unlikeable athlete I've seen in years. All he does is complain and shake his head no all game

 

[Brother Mouzone]

Being a Knicks fan is misery 99% of the time , that 1% that is good will not last . Hopefully this fuels a healthy team next year.

 

[Machinehead]

Half the team is hurt.

This team will contend with reasonable health and a good offseason.

 

[17futurecap]

It’s a very good roster, it’s still missing another star player. I just don’t think a Brunson, Randle and OG 3 are getting you all the way.

Be interesting what they do this summer, have to pay OG, him always being hurt is a worry. Have to decide on if they should go over the tax and pay Hartenstein, feel like they almost have to with how much time Robinson always misses.

It’s a letdown not getting to the ECF this year with Embiid on one leg, Jimmy Butler out and Giannis out.

 

[KevinFinnerty]

Boston will win the East, I think Nuggets out west. Nuggets repeat.

 

[mrmovies779]

I like Hartenstein a lot but some team will throw an outrageous contract at him and I hope the Knicks don't get crazy trying to resign him

 

[noncents]

let's see brunson randle and OG play together before saying they can't win anything

 

[mrmovies779]

Losing Robinson was such a huge blow.Nobody in the league can protect the paint like he does.Hartenstein is ok,but teams don't think twice about driving into him.If only this team was at full force....aaaah,what could have been...

 

[CTTribe73]

I like Hartenstein a lot but some team will throw an outrageous contract at him and I hope the Knicks don't get crazy trying to resign him

If our team had been fully healthy we would have kicked the ever living shit out of Indiana. That's TWICE they got lucky with injuries; first round the Bucks had a heavily compromised Lillard and were without Giannis.

They are frauds. Holiday will put Tyrese Halitosis in jail.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Other thing the Knicks have to figure out is Randle

They won’t win with him playing meaningful minutes. I know people want to talk themselves into him being different, but he’s not.

How many times does he have to prove he’s not that guy before people realize? lol

 

[Elvis P]

https://www.audacy.com/wfan/sports/knicks/tiki-barber-knicks-cant-win-title-with-tom-thibodeau

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

It’s a very good roster, it’s still missing another star player. I just don’t think a Brunson, Randle and OG 3 are getting you all the way.

Be interesting what they do this summer, have to pay OG, him always being hurt is a worry. Have to decide on if they should go over the tax and pay Hartenstein, feel like they almost have to with how much time Robinson always misses.

It’s a letdown not getting to the ECF this year with Embiid on one leg, Jimmy Butler out and Giannis out.

Even if they won this series and made it to the ECF, they had 0 shot of beating Boston with the amount of injuries they had. Ever since Randle went down back in like early Feb, the injuries just kept on piling since - it's insane.

Like MH said, if they have a good offseason and have much better luck with injuries next season, they'll contend deeply.

Other thing the Knicks have to figure out is Randle

They won’t win with him playing meaningful minutes. I know people want to talk themselves into him being different, but he’s not.

How many times does he have to prove he’s not that guy before people realize? lol

1) Brunson is officially the guy, not Randle

2) We never saw this year's version of Randle in the playoffs, so it is not valid to say that. Randle would have made a big difference in the Pacers series, for example.

 

[Machinehead]

I got a pair of Sabrina 1's, Oregon Ducks edition.

They should be nice for what I paid, but they are quite nice.

 

[Elvis P]

Rk	Player	Age	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
1	Luol Deng	25	82	82	39.1	6.5	14.1	.460	1.4	4.1	.345	5.1	10.0	.506	.510	3.1	4.1	.753	1.4	4.4	5.8	2.8	1.0	0.6	1.9	2.0	17.4
2	Derrick Rose	22	81	81	37.4	8.8	19.7	.445	1.6	4.8	.332	7.2	15.0	.481	.485	5.9	6.9	.858	1.0	3.1	4.1	7.7	1.0	0.6	3.4	1.7	25.0
3	Joakim Noah	25	48	48	32.8	4.4	8.4	.525	0.0	0.0	.000	4.4	8.4	.526	.525	2.9	3.9	.739	3.8	6.6	10.4	2.2	1.0	1.5	1.9	3.3	11.7
4	Carlos Boozer	29	59	59	31.9

Rk	Player	Age	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
1	Julius Randle	29	46	46	35.4	8.6	18.2	.472	1.7	5.3	.311	6.9	12.9	.539	.518	5.1	6.6	.781	2.2	7.0	9.2	5.0	0.5	0.3	3.5	2.7	24.0
2	Jalen Brunson	27	77	77	35.4	10.3	21.4	.479	2.7	6.8	.401	7.5	14.6	.516	.543	5.5	6.5	.847	0.6	3.1	3.6	6.7	0.9	0.2	2.4	1.9	28.7
3	OG Anunoby	26	23	23	34.9	5.4	11.1	.488	1.8	4.5	.394	3.7	6.6	.553	.568	1.5	1.9	.791	1.0	3.4	4.4	1.5	1.7	1.0	1.7	2.5	14.1
4	Josh Hart	28	81	42	33.4

The Knicks weren't unlucky with injuries and (if they bring Thibs back) they won't do better next season. Since Thibs rookie season in 2010-11 he's been playing his top 4 players too much and grinding them down leading to injuries and playoff losses. He doesn't play the bench enough. This is well known. Thanks to him D. Rose may become the first MVP ever to not make the Hall of Fame.

 

[RangerBlues]

The Knicks weren't unlucky with injuries and (if they bring Thibs back) they won't do better next season. Since Thibs rookie season in 2010-11 he's been playing his top 4 players too much and grinding them down leading to injuries and playoff losses. He doesn't play the bench enough. This is well known. Thanks to him D. Rose may become the first MVP ever to not make the Hall of Fame.

If Randle played enough games to qualify the Knicks would have four players in the top thirty in minutes played. To be fair, they traded away a lot of depth to get better players. Robinson being constantly broken did not help. Bogdonovic was brough in to give minutes. Then he broke. Hartenstein was already playing way too many for. And everyone else cant defend or is a work in progress.
This is going to be a very different team next season.

 

[RangerBlues]

If you had stopped after the first sentence, your post would have been perfect. As I demonstrated in my first post, this is a historic trend by Thibs. His top players have played too much since 2010, that's why they get hurt. Research it. There's no unlucky or accidental injuries on his teams. It's all caused by years of abuse. This is well-known. Brunson is not headed for the Basketball HoF (there is no NBA HoF) for this reason. He just had hand surgery.

I had to continue because your statement had zero context.
The team had minutes depth.
Those players were not good enough.
Got better players.
Sacrificed lineup depth.
Loose Randal ,Robinson, Bogdonovitch. all 30 min a game players.
The rest of the team cant defend anybody.
He played those guys because he had no other options.
You could play some rotation and then loose to philly in the first round.
Or grind the team to dust to game 7 against a deeper and younger indy team.
I have zero desire to get swept by Boston after that.
Next season will have a very different team.

 

[CTTribe73]

I had to continue because your statement had zero context.
The team had minutes depth.
Those players were not good enough.
Got better players.
Sacrificed lineup depth.
Loose Randal ,Robinson, Bogdonovitch. all 30 min a game players.
The rest of the team cant defend anybody.
He played those guys because he had no other options.
You could play some rotation and then loose to philly in the first round.
Or grind the team to dust to game 7 against a deeper and younger indy team.
I have zero desire to get swept by Boston after that.
Next season will have a very different team.

If you go back in the history of the NBA to before Thibs got his first HC job with the Bulls, superstars where routinely playing 38-40+ minutes per game. I think in the 01-02 season Iverson averaged 42. Other guys that were up there: Elton Brand, Kobe Bryant, Karl Malone etc. Yes this was long before the benefits of periodic rest had been analytically proven.....however, superstars still play max minutes when they're on the court now the only difference is they take entire games off which isn't IMO a great answer-and the NBA agrees.

Thibs was't responsible for the injuries this season unless you adopt the nonsensical and extremist view that merely having a player on the court exposes them to injury. But I guess then the only answer is to put them in bubble wrap the minute the contract is signed and only let them play in the playoffs.

Extend Thibs. He earned it.

 

[Elvis P]

Hall of Fame basketball legend Bill Walton dies at 71

Hall of Fame basketball legend and broadcaster Bill Walton has died at the age of 71.

sports.yahoo.com

He was the best passing NBA center ever. Rest in peace, big red.