HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[le_sean]

Again, never said anything about consistency, just upside production, but before 2019 (where players are basically just entering that 22-28 window), you have to go back to 2012 and 2008 before that to find a year where 3+ players in the top 10 didn't hit 80-100+ points

If you hit 80 points one year and 60 every other season, you’re not an 80 point player. Jonathan Cheechoo was not a 50 goal scorer. He’s a goal scorer that happened to hit that mark once.

 

[26Mats]

25 if all the final four are not NYR, DAL, CAR, WPG

Won't happen though.

We can still get to 23 or 24, because disivision winners that finished below the Jets in the standings and that also don't make the conference finals get seeded after them in the draft order. But 23 is looking impossible as it would require NYI or washington to make the conference finals. 24 requires Boston or Toronto to beat Florida ( or Tampa to), plus a bunch of other things...

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

If you hit 80 points one year and 60 every other season, you’re not an 80 point player. Jonathan Cheechoo was not a 50 goal scorer. He’s a goal scorer that happened to hit that mark once.

Except that's just semantics. Cheechoo scored 50 goals, therefore he is a 50 goal scorer. If you win one cup in your career are you not a cup winner? Is Gretzky not a 90 goal scorer?

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

If you hit 80 points one year and 60 every other season, you’re not an 80 point player. Jonathan Cheechoo was not a 50 goal scorer. He’s a goal scorer that happened to hit that mark once.

That's not how the bridge builder fable works though...

 

[le_sean]

Except that's just semantics. Cheechoo scored 50 goals, therefore he is a 50 goal scorer. If you win one cup in your career are you not a cup winner? Is Gretzky not a 90 goal scorer?

That’s exactly how it works when you’re drafting. I’m hoping for a player that gives me 80 points consistently. Not one that gives me 80 points one season and then goes to the AHL. Wtf is good in that

When someone says “they have 80-100 point potential” it means they will hit that mark fairly consistently. If not I can just say every player has 1-250 point potential and I guess I’ll be right.

 

[Bacchus1]

How high can be the WPG pick?

This article claims 23 at the highest, but unlikely: Playoff Outcomes Could Help Canadiens Draft Hopes

 

[HuGo boss]

I feel we need to add size and toughness to out bottom 6, because if you do players like caufield or drafting a catton don't make our team feel or look small

 

[G0bias]

What would you jabronis rather?

Stay put and take Lindstrom 5th ov + whomever is ranked around WPG's pick

Or

Trade down and take leftover top 10 dman + Sennecke with newly acquired mid teens pick from trade down.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

If the Habs thought the forwards were on the same level as the top LD’s in the draft, Hughes wouldn’t of made that comment about trading down.

Hughes doesn't know when the habs will pick and who will be available.

The habs could pick 7th post lottery and the first 6 players drafted could be all forwards/RD. So Hughes comment doesn't mean at all that they prefer the LD over the forwards in this draft.

The habs also haven't compiled their final list yet.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

What would you jabronis rather?

Stay put and take Lindstrom 5th ov + whomever is ranked around WPG's pick

Or

Trade down and take leftover top 10 dman + Sennecke with newly acquired mid teens pick from trade down.

Door #3, stay at 5 and trade up with WPGs pick

 

[G0bias]

Door #3, stay at 5 and trade up with WPGs pick

 

[Scintillating10]

What would you jabronis rather?

Stay put and take Lindstrom 5th ov + whomever is ranked around WPG's pick

Or

Trade down and take leftover top 10 dman + Sennecke with newly acquired mid teens pick from trade down.

According to what we are offered to trade down. Most likely we stay at 5

 

[FrankMTL]

95% we are getting FLA pick next year so probably just a late 1st like this year unless CGY somehow doesn’t suck next year (they will).

Gotta pray to the hockey gods that Huberdeau turns it around and has just enough of an amazing year to have the Flames not finish in the bottom 10, but still miss the playoffs. It's a long shot with the way they played this season, but I still hope thy finish between between 11th-15th last.

It would give us two picks more than likely in that 10-16 range as I expect the Habs to be fighting for a playoff spot (or closer to one) next season.

One can dream

 

[FrankMTL]

FC Hockey released their pre-lottery mock draft.

They have us picking Lindstrom at 5 which obviously I'm more than fine with.

Pre-lottery mock for the 2024 NHL Draft

The regular season has come to a close and the Stanley Cup Playoffs are in full swing, so it's time for another mock of the 2024 NHL Draft.

nhlentrydraft.com

Interestingly enough, most publications finally have Iginla firmly in the top 10 now. Some of the fluctuations between the sites are insane though. It's really that close after Celebrini. Some sites have certain prospects going as high as Top 5 in their mock drafts and the same player going 10th-15th on others.

 

[Habs Icing]

More recently I was thinking about Keith. Not spectacular but efficient and makes you win Stanley cups, which is why I have him top 3.

Not spectacular?! Are you talking about the Blackhawk Keith?

 

[Habs Icing]

Rarely are 3+ players in the top 10 of any draft consistent 80-100 point players. Go ahead and take a look.

Excellent point! At first, I thought you were wrong but I did check. Who thunk it? You are right.

 

[Habs Icing]

Eiserman has shattered scoring records at every level as Caufield did:

Caufield hasn't shattered any scoring record in the NHL and it doesn't look like he ever will. BTW, I thought he would. As Hughes (and even Timmins) mentioned several times, they're looking for players who will be the best in 5 years, not now in juniors.

 

[salbutera]

Caufield hasn't shattered any scoring record in the NHL and it doesn't look like he ever will. BTW, I thought he would. As Hughes (and even Timmins) mentioned several times, they're looking for players who will be the best in 5 years, not now in juniors.

Caufield had his best season yet, I expect he’ll score 35G next year on the way to become a consistent 35-40G player.

It’s about showing steady growth at NHL level which he’s doing - w Hutson set to provide PP QB infusion, I expect Caufield to be the biggest individual benefactor, who knows if he can dare I say close in on 50G?

 

[Habs Icing]

Teams overlooked Bossy for the same reasons they’re overlooking Eiserman.

No, not quite right. Scouts overlooked Bossy because they thought he couldn't play defence. No scout ever claimed Bossy was a perimeter player, soft, or a one-trick pony (his shot). If any scout had said as much, Al Arbour would have asked for another player.

Aside from that, I think it's ridiculous when talking about Eiserman to bring up one of (if not the) greatest goal-scorers ever to play the game. Let's bring this conversation down to reality.

 

[vokiel]

How high can be the WPG pick?

If all top 4 teams get booted before the conference finals that yields pick 25. If the Rangers make it, 26.

 

[Habs Icing]

FC Hockey released their pre-lottery mock draft.

They have us picking Lindstrom at 5 which obviously I'm more than fine with.

Pre-lottery mock for the 2024 NHL Draft

The regular season has come to a close and the Stanley Cup Playoffs are in full swing, so it's time for another mock of the 2024 NHL Draft.

nhlentrydraft.com

Interestingly enough, most publications finally have Iginla firmly in the top 10 now. Some of the fluctuations between the sites are insane though. It's really that close after Celebrini. Some sites have certain prospects going as high as Top 5 in their mock drafts and the same player going 10th-15th on others.

“He truly is a unicorn bringing both elite skill and size to the table..." Brody Melsted

Must have gone to the Bobrov School of Scout Reporting or this is Bobrov moonlighting because Molson is too cheap to pay a living wage to his staff.

 

[Vachon23]

If Lindstrom is available he’s gonna be the pick

I’m pretty sure Hugo are gonna have a yellow post top with Lindstrom no matter what

 

[morhilane]

Excellent point! At first, I thought you were wrong but I did check. Who thunk it? You are right.

Despite what some posters in here keep saying "every team have ppg players but us"...the truth is that this season there was only 28 players with 80+ points. And they were spread over half the teams since they usually come in pair and sometimes trios.

And all mostly in teams who went through a rebuild in the last 10 years.

 

[le_sean]

With his empty net goal last night, Sennecke is now tied for top point producer in the OHL playoffs. Pretty good for a draft eligible.

 

[Hannibal]

With his empty net goal last night, Sennecke is now tied for top point producer in the OHL playoffs. Pretty good for a draft eligible.

I only see him as a target if we trade down. No way we pick him top 5.