Speculation: 2024 Off-season Discussion

[lanky]

Guenther and McBain joining Bear for the world's.

I hope this is the last year that any of them are available.

 

[Llewzaher]

Interesting tidbit from the fourth period.
Having gone through a significant rebuild in Arizona, the now-former Coyotes will look to be competitive and shoot for the playoffs next spring, as per the mandate from ownership.

Utah expected to add key pieces to roster — The Fourth Period

Utah GM Bill Armstrong will have a busy off-season adding to his roster.

www.thefourthperiod.com

Anyone else hearing anything like this?

Seems the opposite of what he said in an interview

A sport journalists speculating.,, and others reporting it as fact. A common tale

 

[Heldig]

Of course there is lots of angst on the Leafs board (and rightly so) right now. HOLY there are some bad takes on the UTAH HC.

Saw one trade proposal where UHC retain 50% of Marners contract for a 2nd and 3rd round pick.

Another had UTAH trade Crouse, McBain and a 1st.

Another was Crouse, But and Lamoureux



On a related note 'cause this old man doesn't get it...what the heck is that goofy dance Marner keeps doing? Looks like something a 13 year old boy would do on Tik Tok or a game or something like that.

 

[DustyDangler]

Of course there is lots of angst on the Leafs board (and rightly so) right now. HOLY there are some bad takes on the UTAH HC.

Saw one trade proposal where UHC retain 50% of Marners contract for a 2nd and 3rd round pick.

Another had UTAH trade Crouse, McBain and a 1st.

Another was Crouse, But and Lamoureux



On a related note 'cause this old man doesn't get it...what the heck is that goofy dance Marner keeps doing? Looks like something a 13 year old boy would do on Tik Tok or a game or something like that.

Leafs fans are particularly frustrating when it comes to over valuing their players.

 

[Kaizen]

Kesselring added to Team USA for the world's.

 

[hbk]

Of course there is lots of angst on the Leafs board (and rightly so) right now. HOLY there are some bad takes on the UTAH HC.

Saw one trade proposal where UHC retain 50% of Marners contract for a 2nd and 3rd round pick.

Another had UTAH trade Crouse, McBain and a 1st.

Another was Crouse, But and Lamoureux



On a related note 'cause this old man doesn't get it...what the heck is that goofy dance Marner keeps doing? Looks like something a 13 year old boy would do on Tik Tok or a game or something like that.

Marner is a good player. I doubt if we are interested it would be at full price. The package we would be offering would be less than Leaf fans would be anticipating.

 

[Heldig]

Marner is a good player. I doubt if we are interested it would be at full price. The package we would be offering would be less than Leaf fans would be anticipating.

Yes, he is a great talent. But I sure as heck would not pay him 53% more than our current best player. And then there is the pay raise he will expect. And then there is whatever the cost is to acquire him.

 

[hbk]

Yes, he is a great talent. But I sure as heck would not pay him 53% more than our current best player. And then there is the pay raise he will expect. And then there is whatever the cost is to acquire him.

And that’s the predicament Toronto has and the reality that we can take the contract w/o retention helps us.

 

[DustyDangler]

Marner is a good player. I doubt if we are interested it would be at full price. The package we would be offering would be less than Leaf fans would be anticipating.

Marner is a good regular season player. Close to worthless in playoffs and he was primary responsible for Pasta goal. If you want to make the playoffs Marner is interesting, if you want to win in playoffs, you want no part of him.

 

[hbk]

Marner is a good regular season player. Close to worthless in playoffs and he was primary responsible for Pasta goal. If you want to make the playoffs Marner is interesting, if you want to win in playoffs, you want no part of him.

I don’t disagree. I hate the price tag. We have a few playoff unknowns ourselves.

 

[Mosby]

Zero interest in Marner. Doesn’t fit what we’re trying to build at all.

 

[kickback256]

Zero interest in Marner. Doesn’t fit what we’re trying to build at all.

I’d take younger and fresher over an overpriced Marner any day.

 

[Mosby]

The “Utah would love to market a star like Marner” commentary is already getting annoying.

 

[hbk]

The “Utah would love to market a star like Marner” commentary is already getting annoying.

the easy response is "and Toronto would love to get market value on an overpriced asset that few teams can fit into their cap"

 

[Mosby]

I saw a fun mock up where we offer sheet Byfield for 8.5 mil. Cost is a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.

I'd do that except Cooley and Guenther would then want the same money. Plus other guys. Our cap would be a mess I'd think.

 

[hbk]

I saw a fun mock up where we offer sheet Byfield for 8.5 mil. Cost is a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.

I'd do that except Cooley and Guenther would then want the same money. Plus other guys. Our cap would be a mess I'd think.

i don't see us using offer sheets to improve the club.

 

[Mosby]

Same. Just gets too messy. Slow growth is the way.

 

[Jakey53]

I saw a fun mock up where we offer sheet Byfield for 8.5 mil. Cost is a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.

I'd do that except Cooley and Guenther would then want the same money. Plus other guys. Our cap would be a mess I'd think.

Why would the Kings accept that? I would think BA would do that in a heartbeat. 8.5 mil. would be a steal in a couple of years.

i don't see us using offer sheets to improve the club.

Can you offer sheet a RFA?

 

[hbk]

Why would the Kings accept that? I would think BA would do that in a heartbeat. 8.5 mil. would be a steal in a couple of years.


Can you offer sheet a RFA?

Yes. It has happened to us with Selanne (Calgary) and Tkachuk (Chicago) when with the Jets.

 

[Jakey53]

Same. Just gets too messy. Slow growth is the way.

Byfield is young. In fact, he is just the type of player Utah needs. Why do you think it gets messy? He fits everything our rebuild is about, but just speeds it up.

Yes. It has happened to us with Selanne (Calgary) and Tkachuk (Chicago) when with the Jets.

Ok, if that all it takes I would do that in a heartbeat. No questions asked. The Kings will never let that happen.

 

[Summer Rose]

Offer sheets are rarely used. Only ten players in the last twenty-five plus years have been offer sheeted, and eight of them were matched. The two that weren't are Jesperi Kotkaniemi and Dustin Penner.

 

[Mosby]

Byfield is young. In fact, he is just the type of player Utah needs. Why do you think it gets messy? He fits everything our rebuild is about, but just speeds it up.

If Byfield gets 8.5, the other young guys will want the same. Suddenly we're out of cap, and we also have LA looking to hit us back with an offer sheet.

 

[lanky]

LA is not letting go of Byfield. If you want the scoring skills he has in a beast of a package, you have to get it at the draft.

If we pass on Lindstrom we'll regret it.

 

[Kaizen]

LA is not letting go of Byfield. If you want the scoring skills he has in a beast of a package, you have to get it at the draft.

If we pass on Lindstrom we'll regret it.

I'm scared of CL's injury history. IF he doesn't turn out to be injury prone I'm with you but it's hard to overlook that risk.

Walt was injured his draft year and that worked out so who knows...

 

[Shepard]

Offer sheets are rarely used. Only ten players in the last twenty-five plus years have been offer sheeted, and eight of them were matched. The two that weren't are Jesperi Kotkaniemi and Dustin Penner.

So if you acquire a player through an offer sheet there's a 50/50 chance they injure themselves eating pancakes