Prospect Info: 61st overall Egor Sokolov LW, CB, QMJHL

[Larionov]

Egor has officially gone from prospect to suspect, unfortunately. He'll dress in these last few games, but in September he'll get passed on the depth chart by Ostapchuk and Boucher. Maybe he gets a one year QO, but if we didn't qualify him at all I wouldn't drop dead of shock...

 

[Burrowsaurus]

We didn't see much of him but in the limited amount we saw, we didn't see much.

I didn't see anything that says to me he can play at an NHL pace.


I think the obvious miss was by David Poile.

Who is David Poile to me?

 

[JD1]

Who is David Poile to me?

I have no idea who he is to you. For all I know that could be your neighbour's name. But generally speaking in hockey circles, he's known to be the GM of the Nashville Predators

He drafted Tolvanen in 2017. Tolvanen spent years in the Nashville system including many games in the NHL. If it was obvious that Tolvanen was an NHL player, wouldn't Nashville be the team that should be aware of that?

Poile acknowledged his mistake

Predators' Poile: Waiving Tolvanen 'could be a mistake on our part'

You might consider that sometimes these things aren't so obvious. If they were, somebody in the Nashville system should have pleaded for him to not be put on waivers. If it was really obvious, no one would have needed to plead in the first place.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I have no idea who he is to you. For all I know that could be your neighbour's name. But generally speaking in hockey circles, he's known to be the GM of the Nashville Predators

He drafted Tolvanen in 2017. Tolvanen spent years in the Nashville system including many games in the NHL. If it was obvious that Tolvanen was an NHL player, wouldn't Nashville be the team that should be aware of that?

Poile acknowledged his mistake

Predators' Poile: Waiving Tolvanen 'could be a mistake on our part'

You might consider that sometimes these things aren't so obvious. If they were, somebody in the Nashville system should have pleaded for him to not be put on waivers. If it was really obvious, no one would have needed to plead in the first place.

I care about Pierre dorions moves. I don’t care about David Poiles.

It was a miss by Dorion and his staff. Saying “well other teams made the mistake too” doesn’t affect me.

 

[Ouroboros]

Tolvanen is trash. He has inflated production due to a shooting percentage heater once he landed in Seattle - the guy has 17 actual goals on 10xG. Luckbox.

Assuming his shot metrics fall back to where they've always been, he's a 30 point player that needs 2+ minutes of PP time to even reach that pathetic total.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Tolvanen is trash. He has inflated production due to a shooting percentage heater once he landed in Seattle - the guy has 17 actual goals on 10xG. Luckbox.

Assuming his shot metrics fall back to where they've always been, he's a 30 point player that needs 2+ minutes of PP time to even reach that pathetic total.

30 points is fine for the third line.

 

[JD1]

I care about Pierre dorions moves. I don’t care about David Poiles.

It was a miss by Dorion and his staff. Saying “well other teams made the mistake too” doesn’t affect me.

You're assuming it's a miss. It very well may be that the Sens evaluated the player and chose not to put in a waiver claim. I would in fact bet on this.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

You're assuming it's a miss. It very well may be that the Sens evaluated the player and chose not to put in a waiver claim. I would in fact bet on this.

Yes. I’m assuming they also did see him on waivers and decide not to claim him…which would be a miss.

When I say “miss” I don’t mean like they literally missed his name

 

[SlapJack]

Tolvanen could've been the next Rudolfs Balcers!

Picking up guys on waivers is like drafting in the 4th round. Every once in a while a guy hits and everybody freaks out that their team should've picked him up. And pretty much all the guys that look good for a red hot minute are flawed, hence the reason they were on waivers in the first place.

Sens passed on Tolvanen at the draft and on waivers. I think they don't like him.

 

[Micklebot]

Tough to really evaluate the guy with what, 7 mins total icetime and a ton of penalties early on. Hopefully next game he gets he can get a rhythm but for someone who isn't an energy guy games like that are brutal.

It's too bad because he seems like a really good kid.

 

[Cosmix]

Yeah very obvious miss my dorion on that one. I would really like to know the rational on some moves. But I was told by hf Sens tolvanen was just an offensive ahler

Instead Dorion goes out to get an AHL player in Brown with little to no offense. Lower salary I guess.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Yes. I’m assuming they also did see him on waivers and decide not to claim him…which would be a miss.

When I say “miss” I don’t mean like they literally missed his name

You’re heating up brother!

 

[Burrowsaurus]

You’re heating up brother!

Well it is what it is. It’s a miss. Misses happen. But it was a miss.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Well it is what it is. It’s a miss. Misses happen. But it was a miss.

Eh, we’ll see. Balcers was also a grand miss too, and the list goes on and on and on.

There is always a reason why guys are in waivers.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Eh, we’ll see. Balcers was also a grand miss too, and the list goes on and on and on.

There is always a reason why guys are in waivers.

Not saying he’s. Along term answer. At that point we needed help scoring. Our pp was suffering. Pinto was up in the top 6. It should have been an easy claim. And easy flip out

 

[Ice-Tray]

Not saying he’s. Along term answer. At that point we needed help scoring. Our pp was suffering. Pinto was up in the top 6. It should have been an easy claim. And easy flip out

If he’s owed money next season it may be the reason? We’ll be tight to the cap for one year.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Instead Dorion goes out to get an AHL player in Brown with little to no offense. Lower salary I guess.

Yeah, seriously. I have no issue with dorion passing on tolvanen, but then adding a nothing player like brown is a headscratcher.

 

[Senscore]

What a moment for him

 

[SpezDispenser]

Excellent!

 

[aragorn]

Would be interesting to watch a Gauthier - Kastelic - Sokolov 4th line next yr. All right shots, we have another line playing tonight with all right shots in DBC - Pinto - Batherson.

 

[SensontheRush]

I really don't get why people don't see a promising prospect in Sokolov. Feels like overthinking.

 

[aragorn]

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
DBC - Norris - Batherson
Greig - Pinto - Sokolov
Ostapchuk - Kastelic - Gauthier/Kelly

Use Brann, Joseph, Thomson & a pick to get a goalie.

 

[Senscore]

I really don't get why people don't see a promising prospect in Sokolov. Feels like overthinking.

He's promising in many ways but he has one big issue that could make the rest of his talents moot

 

[SensontheRush]

He's promising in many ways but he has one big issue that could make the rest of his talents moot

We've built a team identity that's kind of the opposite of his playstyle, so I feel like he sticks out a little, but there are plenty of players around the league who are still successful despite their lack of speed. I also feel like it's an endurance thing with Sokolov too, and not really "speed".

The way he boxes into the crease is an NHL talent right there already. He just sets up.

 

[Oscar The Grouch]

He's promising in many ways but he has one big issue that could make the rest of his talents moot

Yah, even on his goal, watch his skating. It's still quite brutal.