MartyOwns
thank you shero
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i beat up a 3rd grader last year but you don't hear me bragging about it
thats true but we live in a world with a short attention span sadly.
I'm with you on Green being bad, but this is the same dogshit we've seen since the Shero days, served on new plates.The biggest reason the team is really bad for the last month is far and away because Travis Green is now the head coach.
Ruff wishes he got a chance with the goalies we got at the deadline.
I love all of this. It's funny bc all of the guys you mention have a particular singular brand of arrogance about them.Steve Thomas back in 1995-1996 is probably one of my most hated Devils ever. Including coaches.
Honestly, one of the first Devils players I really HATED, which would not surprise anybody is Sean Burke.
He was no good here, other than the first few months of 1988. His debut at the end of that regular season through the playoffs was his peak as a Devil. It wasn't the peak of his career, but it was his peak as a Devil.
That was definitely his longest playoff run though. He was the backup for the Flyers on their 2004 team that made the conference finals. Burke had 12 career playoff wins and 9 of them came with us in 1988. He had three straight playoff runs of 1-4 in 5 game playoff runs. 1 with Philly in 98 and 2 with Phoenix in 00 and 01. Other than being 0-2 in the 1990 playoffs with us,
I think Herb Brooks was the first ever coach I hated here. College caliber head coach who got a couple of NHL head boss gigs because of an impossible gold medal win with college kids. He was one of those ''Real American heroes!'' coaches because of that. He was a one and done here under Lou.
Which is kind of an issue with this team.Bahl went easy on Goodrow
Here's to whomever comes in and instills some discipline, a solid patient counter attacking system, and a few roster tweaks to stabilize the D corps and introduce forecheckers as good or better than Fabian Zetterlund so that we don't have to watch the Great Forward Depth we currently are blessed with.
But how much of the team playing listless was due to the goaltending undermining the season?Ruff needed to get fired. We looked like listless dogshit at home vs Tampa and that was followed by the bad road trip.
The “Fire Ruff” chants were going to start again, 20 games of that would have been ugly and cruel.
I didn’t see it as an attempt to savage the season either.
We kept theoretically hanging around because it might only take ~90 points to get the last two spots, not because we were poised to make a run.
I didn’t want Ruff here next year, and I didn’t want the fan base to abuse him, so firing him was the right move IMO.
I wasn’t particularly worried about Green doing enough to keep his job either, and that isn’t looking like a problem now, so who cares if he’s the interim HC? (Well, other than you lol.)
Maybe I’m underestimating Kevin Dineen’s coaching skills, but I have zero interest in him as a coaching candidate, so I had zero interest in him getting the interim job. I guess the team felt the same way.
People here read too much into hirings. We hired guys with HC experience because a lot of teams do and this is a good gig now. It doesn’t make every hire the next HC in waiting.
Rag's kicked our ass last night. We never deserved to have the lead, but once we had it, we fully deserved to blow it.Devils keep their leads in all the games they recently blew and they're tied with Washington for the last spot currently, borderline comical how bad and mentally weak they are this year
But how much of the team playing listless was due to the goaltending undermining the season?
I think Ruff got a raw deal. We all knew goaltending was a big issue, maybe the biggest, to fire Ruff and then immediately after to bring in 2 goalies? That's a tough timeline from Ruff's perspective.
Rag's kicked our ass last night. We never deserved to have the lead, but once we had it, we fully deserved to blow it.
We are bad team right now and trending downwards.100% agree but it's more so how do you manage not to win one of those games if not 2/3. The Pens got their asses kicked for 50 mins and still won, Devils could've done that last night as well
If you only saw our power play conversion percentage, you would think we weren't doing that badly on the power play or as bad as people would lead you to believe with how much of a constant and nonstop complaint it's been.Did anyone look at our PP #'s from last night?
6 minutes on the PP and we were out corsi'd, out HDCF'd, out SCF'd, out xGF.
We didn’t play well but it still took absurd bad luck to blow that game. Luke’s broken stick and Kakko snipe out of nowhere, the BS call on Smith, the very fortunate bounce on the deflection.Rag's kicked our ass last night. We never deserved to have the lead, but once we had it, we fully deserved to blow it.
Yes. A starting goalie so Allen can play 30ish games. A new head coach and some bottom 6 help is definitely a must. It's going to be hard to bring in another D man unless we move out 1 of Bahl , Siegenthaler or Marino. If we don't than we bank alot on those 3 playing better next year. Luke and Nemec are probably never going back to the AHL either. Maybe a team does a change of scenery deal with Siegenthaler. I feel like he might be the odd man out here.Next season can be a positive turnaround, as 21-22 -> 22-23 was. But they need to bring in certain elements.
I have a feeling one of Marino/Siegenthaler is on the way out this summer.Yes. A starting goalie so Allen can play 30ish games. A new head coach and some bottom 6 help is definitely a must. It's going to be hard to bring in another D man unless we move out 1 of Bahl , Siegenthaler or Marino. If we don't than we bank alot on those 3 playing better next year. Luke and Nemec are probably never going back to the AHL either. Maybe a team does a change of scenery deal with Siegenthaler. I feel like he might be the odd man out here.
There can always be retention. Both players have shown they can play well though. Marino was great last season and Siegenthaler was last season and the one prior. They can bounce back for sure but Marino is a better complete player IMO. He's not as big as Siegenthaler though. My issue with Siegenthaler is he doesn't play enough of a hard nosed game for being a pretty 1 dimensional player. He knows his role but theirs no intimidating part to his game most nights.I have a feeling one of Marino/Siegenthaler is on the way out this summer.
I think the team would prefer to keep Marino, but he may be easier to do away with, as he has 3 years left on his deal.
Siegenthaler has just completed year 1 of a 5 year deal.
Did anyone look at our PP #'s from last night?
6 minutes on the PP and we were out corsi'd, out HDCF'd, out SCF'd, out xGF.
Yeah I think Marino is going to be just fine with Dougie back and hopefully Nemec and Luke taking steps. Siegenthaler has been shit long enough that I don’t expect anything from him anymore. Not sure what happened.I think it's still too early to give up on Siegs or Marino, and unless they're going for an upgrade I don't see them going anywhere. I'd like to see them under a new coach and system first.
I trust Marino to bounce back more than I do Siegs though, who I think has bigger issues because of his grenade handling with the puck. It's why he needs somebody like Dougie who can move the puck.
Pretty much. Lost his partner in Hamilton, who despite some defensive shortcomings is a true #1 defenseman. He'll be fine when in a steady roleDidn't Siegs go from a broken foot to a concussion?
Didn't Siegs go from a broken foot to a concussion?