Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - offseason part I

[Dialamo]

23-24 Devils were so bad they lost a championship
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What the hell? Did it end up in a dumpster in Arizona next to Shane Doan's retirement banner?

 

[Xirik]

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It is almost summer

What's your discrimination againt Orange? Is Dano too good enough to high class to look like an oompa loompa?

 

[NjDevsRR]

What's your discrimination againt Orange? Is Dano too good enough to high class to look like an oompa loompa?

I shall refer you to our historical exhibit:

Post in thread 'Meme Bank'
OT: - Meme Bank

 

[Xirik]

I shall refer you to our historical exhibit:

Post in thread 'Meme Bank'
OT: - Meme Bank

I withdraw my statement and apologize

 

[NjDevsRR]

I withdraw my statement and apologize

 

[Guttersniped]

Still not an excuse because Point's consensus ranking was generally the late 1st round. I'm not up for looking for my 10-year old draft notebooks, but I'm pretty sure I had Point in the 20-25 range. I love Lamoriello, but that just a really poor pick.

Point wasn’t a consensus late 1st Rd pick.

If you go to MyNHLDraft.com they have 13 different Top 30 lists.
link (this website is mess fyi)

3 lists had him in their Top 30:
TSN: Craig Button #17
ESPN: Cory Pronman #25
THW/ Next Ones: Christopher Ralph #29

And 10 lists didn’t:
Bob McKenzie
ISS
THN
McKeen’s Hockey
Hockey Prospect
Future Considerations
Dobber: Brendon Ross
THW/ War Room: Eldon McDonald
THN: Ryan Kennedy
Central Scouting NA Skaters

The links to the 2014 McKenzie list on TSN are dead but I went to ridiculous lengths to dig this up lol. (The Wayback Machine is a pain in the ass.)

But here’s his rankings: (he had 1-60 plus 5 HM)

And grabbed this too:

I do like to, uh, point out that Tampa drafted 3 guys before grabbing Point.

They risked not getting him by grabbing Jonathan MacLeod first. (Who was #56 on Bob’s list.)

A similar thing happened in 2014 with Cirelli. The benefit of having extra picks.

Ask for Pospisil when we acquire markstrom. Problem solved

Great minds think a like.

I was going to specifically pitch him to @My3Sons because if you want a guy who makes borderline hits, and gets occasionally suspended for them, he’s your psycho.

 

[Devils731]

I’m playing the hits here. The mascot tweets anything and we can speculate.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Playoffs are a different beast than the regular season. Look at teams like Florida that have physical and skilled forwards.

We are absolutely a soft team and need to add some additional physical players.

physical players doesnt always mean players that "throw hits"

Miles Wood throws hits but he isn't an overly physical player.

 

[Cheddabombs]

He can really scoot. Definitely would help in the speed department but I think he’s more of a wing and doesn’t have the defensive chops/grit that Fitz will be hunting for. He’s looked good on the Rangers though.

Scoot you say?

 

[OmNomNom]

Ask for Pospisil when we acquire markstrom. Problem solved

swear to god when i see "Pospisil" i think it's some topical acne medication

 

[Nocashstyle]

Point wasn’t a consensus late 1st Rd pick.

If you go to MyNHLDraft.com they have 13 different Top 30 lists.
link (this website is mess fyi)

3 lists had him in their Top 30:
TSN: Craig Button #17
ESPN: Cory Pronman #25
THW/ Next Ones: Christopher Ralph #29

And 10 lists didn’t:
Bob McKenzie
ISS
THN
McKeen’s Hockey
Hockey Prospect
Future Considerations
Dobber: Brendon Ross
THW/ War Room: Eldon McDonald
THN: Ryan Kennedy
Central Scouting NA Skaters

The links to the 2014 McKenzie list on TSN are dead but I went to ridiculous lengths to dig this up lol. (The Wayback Machine is a pain in the ass.)

But here’s his rankings: (he had 1-60 plus 5 HM)
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And grabbed this too:
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I do like to, uh, point out that Tampa drafted 3 guys before grabbing Point.

They risked not getting him by grabbing Jonathan MacLeod first. (Who was #56 on Bob’s list.)
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A similar thing happened in 2014 with Cirelli. The benefit of having extra picks.
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Great minds think a like.

I was going to specifically pitch him to @My3Sons because if you want a guy who makes borderline hits, and gets occasionally suspended for them, he’s your psycho.

Ahh yes, John “the next Adam Henrique” Quennville

 

[AfroThunder396]

We had 301 more hits this season (1667) than we did last year (1366) because we didn't control the puck nearly as much.

 

[Rhodes 81]

We had 301 more hits this season (1667) than we did last year (1366) because we didn't control the puck nearly as much.

Obviously there is something to be said about 4th liners that make things hard on the opponent since you don't generally expect your 4th line to out-possess the other team, but it amazes me how many people conflate hits with winning board battles and forechecking effectively.

 

[Triumph]

I hate to do this but I think both sides are talking around one another. Obviously 'hitting more' all else being equal is going to be a symptom of having the puck less, but it is hockey and so there will be times you won't have the puck. The thing that was missing from the Devils' game but especially during the 2nd half of the season was any sort of forecheck pressure/long shifts in the opposition's zone. This combined with meh to bad neutral zone play meant that too often the puck was in the Devils' end.

The Devils could use more players who excel at boardwork/breaking up the opposition's breakout along their boards. These sorts of players tend to also hit people, but not overly so - think Ondrej Palat, who averages more than a hit a game but not much more.

 

[MartyOwns]

You need someone in that bottom 6 that did at least some of the things McLeod did.

but not all of the things mcleod did, that's for sure

 

[Its Always Sundstrom]

Rogalski to the moon.

Bring Corey Schwab home!

 

[Stephen Gionta]

physical players doesnt always mean players that "throw hits"

Miles Wood throws hits but he isn't an overly physical player.

Haha what? Miles Wood is in like the top 5-10% of physical players in the league.

 

[Patrik26]

Haha what? Miles Wood is in like the top 5-10% of physical players in the league.

My perception of Miles. This was here a few years back still resonates with me.

 

[Devils Trap]

Haha what? Miles Wood is in like the top 5-10% of physical players in the league.

He is not a physical player, he’s a big body who skates fast lol

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Haha what? Miles Wood is in like the top 5-10% of physical players in the league.

yeah sure he is.

 

[Stephen Gionta]

Miles Wood would have been arguably the most physical player on the Devils this season.

Meier, Lazar, Bastian, Smith, and McLeod would be the only players you could make an argument for being more physical than Miles.

 

[Bleedred]

Rogalski to the moon.

Bring Corey Schwab home!

You got me excited for a minute.

I thought he was really fired. I’m assuming he wasn’t actually sent to the moon or there would be more comments here and a link or Twitter post confirming it at some point in the last hour since your post.

 

[MartyOwns]

now we're going debate what the definition of physical is lol. is it october yet?

 

[Cheddabombs]

Someone break out the physicality/60 metrics, let's dive deep into this

 

[Its Always Sundstrom]

You got me excited for a minute.

I thought he was really fired. I’m assuming he wasn’t actually sent to the moon or there would be more comments here and a link or Twitter post confirming it at some point in the last hour since your post.

Sorry for the misdirection. More of a wish and thinking that’s a good time to save Schwab from Utah.