Former Ducks - (2023-24 Season Edition )
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Hockey Duckie
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You mean how people lash out at me and then blame me for them lashing out on me? Converse with facts and it stays on facts. Attack the person instead of the conversation, well then, it's not really a conversation at that point. Or they ask a question and I respond in full, but their response is to not read what I wrote and just lash out at me feels disingenuous b/c, again, it's an attack on me than on the conversation.
I actually do take the time to do the research, collect info, tabulate info, and share the info. Do posters realize how much time and work is needed for that? Do poster know I have excel tables spanning back to 2021-22 to develop a track record? Nope. People get angry with facts that they attack the person than the facts. Is feeling 1 point better than last year's group that significant of an improvement? All empirical data states no. Any layman will say no too.
If the team is to improve, then you gotta know what we're not doing well. If we're doing well, then WTF are we doing in the bottom-3 again and only 1 point better than last year. I'm not delusional, I'm factual. That's why posters are angry with my posts and attack me than the conversation.
I attack you because you’re arrogant, that’s whyYou mean how people lash out at me and then blame me for them lashing out on me? Converse with facts and it stays on facts. Attack the person instead of the conversation, well then, it's not really a conversation at that point. Or they ask a question and I respond in full, but their response is to not read what I wrote and just lash out at me feels disingenuous b/c, again, it's an attack on me than on the conversation.
I actually do take the time to do the research, collect info, tabulate info, and share the info. Do posters realize how much time and work is needed for that? Do poster know I have excel tables spanning back to 2021-22 to develop a track record? Nope. People get angry with facts that they attack the person than the facts. Is feeling 1 point better than last year's group that significant of an improvement? All empirical data states no. Any layman will say no too.
If the team is to improve, then you gotta know what we're not doing well. If we're doing well, then WTF are we doing in the bottom-3 again and only 1 point better than last year. I'm not delusional, I'm factual. That's why posters are angry with my posts and attack me than the conversation.
Deuce22
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Presenting data (charts, graphs, spreadsheets) doesn't mean said presenter is correct in the opinion that presented data is supporting. Data is open to interpretation, data can be incomplete (supporting only one side of the issue), data is beholden to context. Arguing that "I did more research than you so I'm right" isn't a good argument. It just means that you did more research. The best research begins with an attempt to find the correct answer. Weaker research begins with the supposed answer and attempts to bolster pre-conceived opinion.You mean how people lash out at me and then blame me for them lashing out on me? Converse with facts and it stays on facts. Attack the person instead of the conversation, well then, it's not really a conversation at that point. Or they ask a question and I respond in full, but their response is to not read what I wrote and just lash out at me feels disingenuous b/c, again, it's an attack on me than on the conversation.
I actually do take the time to do the research, collect info, tabulate info, and share the info. Do posters realize how much time and work is needed for that? Do poster know I have excel tables spanning back to 2021-22 to develop a track record? Nope. People get angry with facts that they attack the person than the facts. Is feeling 1 point better than last year's group that significant of an improvement? All empirical data states no. Any layman will say no too.
If the team is to improve, then you gotta know what we're not doing well. If we're doing well, then WTF are we doing in the bottom-3 again and only 1 point better than last year. I'm not delusional, I'm factual. That's why posters are angry with my posts and attack me than the conversation.
Firequacker
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Spot on.
I'd add to this that the most important thing is willingness to follow the data in good faith, no matter where you started. It's definitely easier to do that without any preconceived notions. But it's pretty natural to have a starting bias on a subject you're passionate about, it doesn't mean you can't do good research, you've just got to be cognizant of it.
Getting so entrenched that you have to belittle, dismiss, or ignore any counterpoints rather than engaging with them is the real killer.
Deuce22
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Civility is sometimes difficult, but always something to be strived for. I’ve been humbled enough in life to realize that I’m not always right. But that won’t stop me from having opinions and attempting to defend them-without talking down to whoever I’m disagreeing with.
The f*** did I just walk in on?
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Didn't stay up to watch the whole game but Rico was a gametime decision, did play but is clearly not himself.
Hockey Duckie
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Wow. That's a thing. Attack the person and not the idea b/c you don't have anything substantial to retort with.
Good times!
I don’t care about someone’s “ideas” if they’re an arrogant person. A lot of people can have great opinions and share them without being condescending, that ability seems to escape youWow. That's a thing. Attack the person and not the idea b/c you don't have anything substantial to retort with.
Good times!
Hockey Duckie
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I don't think you comprehend very well. I reciprocate condescension and that's where you're lacking in comprehension and are very upset. Usually logic identifies who starts shit and you missed that boat often. But thank you using yourself as yet another prime example.
Next!
Sure thing bud. You’re a condescending prick. Enjoy your spreadsheets and stats.
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