News: IIHF rules Fedotov has a valid NHL contract, IIHF discipline for Fedotov and CSKA

[HansonBro]

The International Ice Hockey Federation ruled in favor of the Philadelphia Flyers on Monday by agreeing that Russian goaltender Ivan Fedotov had a valid NHL contract for the upcoming season when he signed with CSKA Moscow in the KHL.

The decision paves the way for Fedotov to play in North America, like he planned to do a year ago before being conscripted into the Russian military.

IIHF rules in favor of the Flyers, saying Russian goalie Ivan Fedotov has a valid NHL contract

The International Ice Hockey Federation ruled in favor of the Philadelphia Flyers on Monday by agreeing that Russian goaltender Ivan Fedotov had a valid NHL contract for the upcoming season when he signed with CSKA Moscow in the KHL.

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[Empoleon8771]

I mean yeah but Fedotov is still stuck in Russia and Russia will probably throw him on the front lines if he tries to defect to the United States.

 

[Three On Zero]

Without getting political I don’t think it’s as simple as just coming back to Philly for his contractual agreement

 

[ReHabs]

It rules against Fedetov who signed with CSKA after signing with the Flyers.

Now he is barred from playing for a certain amount of time unless he plays for (commits to join, etc) the Flyers.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Thread title is misleading; IIHF ruled in favor of the Flyers.

Details in non-paywalled article: IIHF Upholds Ivan Fedotov's Contract With Flyers

 

[josra33]

What authority does the IIHF have with NHL/KHL contract disputes?

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

They have made their decision, now let them enforce it..

 

[gstommylee]

What authority does the IIHF have with NHL/KHL contract disputes?

Since they manage the sport on a global scale and regulate how transfers happens between countries. IIHF is basically like fifa is for soccer and they declared that KHL team made an illegal transfer of player.

 

[mouser]

Thread title updated to more accurately describe the ruling.

The ruling isn’t “in favor of Fedotov”.

 

[Oscar The Grouch]

LOL, dude has gotta be ancient by now. Elite with Detroit and pretty much washed up with Anaheim..not sure what Philly thinks they're gonna get out of him in 2023.

 

[mouser]

What authority does the IIHF have with NHL/KHL contract disputes?

Not a whole lot. They can’t for example void either Fedotov’s NHL or KHL contract. The main thing the IIHF has direct authority over are any IIHF sanctioned tournaments like the World Championships.

The IIHF issued a 4 month “IIHF suspension” for Fedotov, but the NHL doesn‘t recognize IIHF suspensions. I’m not sure whether or not the KHL does, but I’d suspect they don’t. Which would mean Fedotov can play in the KHL during his IIHF suspension.

The IIHF also issued a one year ban on approving any international transfers to or from CSKA. I’m not familiar with how often teams like CSKA use international transfers, but this ban could be more impactful than the “Fedotov suspension”.

 

[Czechboy]

A ban from playing international hockey when the country he represents is banned from playing international hockey.

That'd be like banning Connor Bedard from the CHL for the upcoming season.

 

[cptjeff]

They have made their decision, now let them enforce it..

Hey now, the IIHF has a rather respectable stragetic missile arsenal, doesn't everyone know that? That's where all the Olympics profits go instead of to the NHL or players.

 

[Redpath]

In accordance with Article II.4.1 of the IIHF International Transfer Regulations, Ivan Fedotov was given two (2) weeks to either go back to his former club (i.e Philadelphia Flyers Hockey Club); or obtain a release from his former club. As neither action occurred within the given period, the IIHF has imposed the following sporting sanctions on Ivan Fedotov:

Given that Fedotov has been given two weeks to figure things out and didn't, I'm going to bet that no sanctions are going to lure him to the NHL. And since one of his options was to ask the Flyers to release him (Which I'd assume his agent tried for), it appears the Flyers aren't interested in rolling over here without any incentive.

So we have the KHL obviously poaching NHL contracts, with the IIHF agreeing, and the KHL simply choosing to ignore the obvious. Does the NHL have the guts to take any action? Do any NHL teams have the guts to poach KHL talent in retaliation? I'm guessing "No" to both those questions.

 

[rams]

Given that Fedotov has been given two weeks to figure things out and didn't, I'm going to bet that no sanctions are going to lure him to the NHL. And since one of his options was to ask the Flyers to release him (Which I'd assume his agent tried for), it appears the Flyers aren't interested in rolling over here without any incentive.

So we have the KHL obviously poaching NHL contracts, with the IIHF agreeing, and the KHL simply choosing to ignore the obvious. Does the NHL have the guts to take any action? Do any NHL teams have the guts to poach KHL talent in retaliation? I'm guessing "No" to both those questions.

It gets interesting considering its the Flyers that are getting poached, particularly when they just drafted a young Russian they would probably love to poach.

 

[mouser]

Given that Fedotov has been given two weeks to figure things out and didn't, I'm going to bet that no sanctions are going to lure him to the NHL. And since one of his options was to ask the Flyers to release him (Which I'd assume his agent tried for), it appears the Flyers aren't interested in rolling over here without any incentive.

So we have the KHL obviously poaching NHL contracts, with the IIHF agreeing, and the KHL simply choosing to ignore the obvious. Does the NHL have the guts to take any action? Do any NHL teams have the guts to poach KHL talent in retaliation? I'm guessing "No" to both those questions.

The IIHF has clearly disagreed, but their power and disciplinary options are limited.

 

[ItWasJustified]

Hey now, the IIHF has a rather respectable stragetic missile arsenal, doesn't everyone know that? That's where all the Olympics profits go instead of to the NHL or players.

Why would any profits from the Olympics go to the NHL?

 

[pandro]

I mean yeah but Fedotov is still stuck in Russia and Russia will probably throw him on the front lines if he tries to defect to the United States.

It's worth noting that the whole duration of his compulsary service was spent with the Navy hockey team.

 

[Belial]

Why would any profits from the Olympics go to the NHL?

What's NHL's incentive to allow its players to participate in the Olympics then?

 

[Redpath]

The IIHF has clearly disagreed, but their power and disciplinary options are limited.

I mean the IIHF agreeing that this is essentially contract poaching

 

[Zine]

Given that Fedotov has been given two weeks to figure things out and didn't, I'm going to bet that no sanctions are going to lure him to the NHL. And since one of his options was to ask the Flyers to release him (Which I'd assume his agent tried for), it appears the Flyers aren't interested in rolling over here without any incentive.

So we have the KHL obviously poaching NHL contracts, with the IIHF agreeing, and the KHL simply choosing to ignore the obvious. Does the NHL have the guts to take any action? Do any NHL teams have the guts to poach KHL talent in retaliation? I'm guessing "No" to both those questions.

It’s not that simple.
There are differing opinions/factions within the KHL itself…some who want abide by the IIHF’s decision, others who don’t.

This is a intra-KHL tug of war just as much as it is a KHL vs NHL one.
The Russian Ice Hockey Federation obviously sides with the IIHF too.

CSKA will certainly appeal. This will give time for the league to come to a consensus.
We’ll see.

 

[ItWasJustified]

What's NHL's incentive to allow its players to participate in the Olympics then?

To get exposure. The NHL pay a pittance for the 10+ years of development clubs all over the world are responsible for.

 

[Zine]

I mean yeah but Fedotov is still stuck in Russia and Russia will probably throw him on the front lines if he tries to defect to the United States.

Fedotov isnt stuck anywhere. He can go where he pleases. He was in Dubai a few weeks ago.

 

[Belial]

To get exposure. The NHL pay a pittance for the 10+ years of development clubs all over the world are responsible for.

Is NHL trying to expand in Sochi? PyeongChang? Beijing?

I don't think it works as you assume.

The preseason games overseas every year are more in line with what a marketing try to conquer new territories look like.

 

[Albatros]

Is NHL trying to expand in Sochi? PyeongChang? Beijing?

I don't think it works as you assume.

The preseason games overseas every year are more in line with what a marketing try to conquer new territories look like.

Way more Americans watch Olympic hockey than NHL hockey.