I have not given much thought to Reinhart to be honest but he may be a good choice too.Why not, indeed? He's developed into a very good player and he is in his prime.
Do the Kraken have the weakest centers in the NHL? I mean, high potential sure, but we're talking about today. Beniers, Wright (assumedly), Gourde and Kartye? Woah. I mean... I can't expect us to be good for at least 3 more years with those 4 at center. 3 of them aren't there yet and the other guy... well, not young.
For the rest of you... Why not Sam Reinhart? We could definitely use a guy who can get 80-95 points. Or is there something I don't know?
Well, I'd rather go through some pain and play the younger guys.
Even if it means we won't be great next year it should help us longterm.
Because Sam Reihhart is basically last years Seattle Kraken in a single player form.
He's got an insane shooting percentage of 24.5 % which is nearly ten percent above his career average.
Great for him(cause he's going to get paid) but anyone expecting him to be a 80 - 95 pt. guy and anywhere close to this season will be dissapointed.
Yeah. I was playing around with capfriendly, though I my estimates for salaries may be way off.
I gave Beniers 6.5M, Tolvy 4.5M, Guentzel 9M.
Traded Gourde with 1.66M retention (makes it 4M AAV).
I would not be shocked if both Beniers and Guentzel's numbers are higher though. Also, keep in mind, the cap is supposed to go up to 87M+ next season. One my problems with the roster is that we have Tolvy on the 4th line. It's overkill.
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Because Sam Reihhart is basically last years Seattle Kraken in a single player form.
He's got an insane shooting percentage of 24.5 % which is nearly ten percent above his career average.
Great for him(cause he's going to get paid) but anyone expecting him to be a 80 - 95 pt. guy and anywhere close to this season will be dissapointed.
I agree. Give Beniers an option for a 8 year 6.5M contract. Or try to bridge him till his last RFA year if he wants more.I don't think Beniers has earned more than that, probably less. Do we see his numbers exploding and him earning a lot more in the future? I'm not sure if there's that much "upside risk" with him, so there's not as much need to lock him in on a big money contract. If he stabilizes as a 60-70 pt solid center then we won't have to pay him much more than $6.5m long term. A million or two more maybe.
Having a good player on the 4th line is not overkill, that is not a problem with the roster. That's what you should aim for. Although personally I'd swap him and Schwartz, I think the best is still to come from Tolvanen and Schwartz is winding down and would do better in limited minutes.
This is exactly why I am skeptical when players start producing when playing with high end 1Cs. His best seasons have been the last 3 playing on a loaded Panthers team and with Barkov has his center. I am not sure his production translates on the Kraken.If you have Reinhart shooting at his career average (around 15%), he'd still be scoring almost 40 goals this year.
I've been iffy on him because it's hard to tell how effective he'd be outside of Florida and Barkov. Reinhart is smart and effective when he can get there but isn't a quick player that can do it all.
One thing that comes to mind is that Beniers can do a lot of two-way heavy lifting, and can get the puck up ice. That seems like a good complement to Reinhart.
If you have Reinhart shooting at his career average (around 15%), he'd still be scoring almost 40 goals this year.
I've been iffy on him because it's hard to tell how effective he'd be outside of Florida and Barkov. Reinhart is smart and effective when he can get there but isn't a quick player that can do it all.
One thing that comes to mind is that Beniers can do a lot of two-way heavy lifting, and can get the puck up ice. That seems like a good complement to Reinhart.
Don't like the idea of trading draft choices either so I'm in total agreement with youI think the window for getting a 1st for Gourde, even a late one, closed at the trade deadline. But that package should indeed attract a decent return. Francis' comments also smack of leveraging the future to be more competitive now, and that always seems a devil's bargain to me. Maybe Francis isn't that high on the forward prospects in the system, but he drafted them so the responsibility is his. If this is the plan, though, colour me apprehensive; I don't like the idea of trading potential high first round draft choices at all,
Love the idea of getting Reinhart but at what cost...9,10,11 Million per for a 57 goal scorer...The Kraken have always been built on fair contracts without a crazy one...though Dunn's deal was large in comparison to all others...maybe Grubauer's contract gets dealt away to open up some space and with say Gourde's and Tanev's the Kraken could have breathing room to get a top quality scorer like ReinhartFor the rest of you... Why not Sam Reinhart? We could definitely use a guy who can get 80-95 points. Or is there something I don't know?
I can see both Tanev and Gourde as being moved but I can't see us being able to move Gru any time soon.Love the idea of getting Reinhart but at what cost...9,10,11 Million per for a 57 goal scorer...The Kraken have always been built on fair contracts without a crazy one...though Dunn's deal was large in comparison to all others...maybe Grubauer's contract gets dealt away to open up some space and with say Gourde's and Tanev's the Kraken could have breathing room to get a top quality scorer like Reinhart
Pretty sure neither player wanted to come back to play for Hakstol. He has burned a lot of the teams bridges with the depth players here with mismanagement and poor communication. He's been exactly as advertised by Flyers fans in his efforts to limit opportunities for players that deserve more, and playing favorites with players that deserve less.I just saw how many goals Geekie and Sprong scored for their respective teams. Daaamn. Not saying they would have done it here but that would have made them 3rd/4th top scores in the Kraken.
For the rest of you... Why not Sam Reinhart? We could definitely use a guy who can get 80-95 points. Or is there something I don't know?
Clearly Hakstol was the issue in Philly what with all their tremendous success post-Hakstol. I mean, Philly fans are notorious for their level-headed takes on their teams.Pretty sure neither player wanted to come back to play for Hakstol. He has burned a lot of the teams bridges with the depth players here with mismanagement and poor communication. He's been exactly as advertised by Flyers fans in his efforts to limit opportunities for players that deserve more, and playing favorites with players that deserve less.
I'd say the 106 point pace under vigneault after firing Hakstol was pretty good, especially given that roster's make up.Clearly Hakstol was the issue in Philly what with all their tremendous success post-Hakstol. I mean, Philly fans are notorious for their level-headed takes on their teams.
I think Francis tends to avoid the top tier crazy UFA market, but probably overdoes it in the middling over-priced UFA market.I can’t see, nor would I welcome, the Kraken offering anyone who’s UFA the inflated AAV or term that July 1st commands. It just seems antithetical to the kind of approach Ron Francis has always taken.
I’d rather see a coaching change and a development year that reveals more clearly what this team needs.
“Wants” are great, but only if the needs are already in place and the addition elevates the system being played.
I think Francis tends to avoid the top tier crazy UFA market, but probably overdoes it in the middling over-priced UFA market.
Burakovsky, Schwarts, Oleksiak, Grubauer.... I think even Dumoulin was a big overpay in value terms. I agree with you in that a play for a top tier UFA like Reinhart is out of character for Francis, but a short term over-pay deal for a stop-gap vet seems right up his alley.
Agree with this completely. And when I said Francis tends to overdo it in the middling overpriced ufa market, i did not mean that as strictly a negative. It can be a useful way to acquire talent to insulate the prospects, even if the contract prices are a bit of a premium.I think Francis would rather build slowly but ownership seems to have no interest in that and wants him to win now.
Looking at this years free agent class it clearly shows you why going for UFA's is a bad move cause that list looks bad and might have even less of the "top guys" available if some of them still re-sign.
Also, I've looked on capfriendly if there was a top tier player that could potentially be available.
I haven't found anything that could make sense unless Brady Tkatchuk or Clayton Keller really want out from their respective teams.
So I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up with another year of Francis signing and/or trading for some 2nd line(middle six guys to try and force a couple more wins next season.
I can’t see, nor would I welcome, the Kraken offering anyone who’s UFA the inflated AAV or term that July 1st commands. It just seems antithetical to the kind of approach Ron Francis has always taken.
I’d rather see a coaching change and a development year that reveals more clearly what this team needs.
“Wants” are great, but only if the needs are already in place and the addition elevates the system being played.
I think Francis tends to avoid the top tier crazy UFA market, but probably overdoes it in the middling over-priced UFA market.
Burakovsky, Schwarts, Oleksiak, Grubauer.... I think even Dumoulin was a big overpay in value terms. I agree with you in that a play for a top tier UFA like Reinhart is out of character for Francis, but a short term over-pay deal for a stop-gap vet seems right up his alley.
God I hope not. Dude needs to go.Is Hakstol confirmed back ?
Thoughts on bringing Mitch Marner in? Seems like he would fit our timeline. It also seems like it would be hard if i were the Leafs to run it back again if they get booted again in the first round.