More MVP deserving: Kuch vs Mackinnon vs McDavid?

[User9992]

Which player deserve MVP more atm?

- Nikita Kucherov
- Nathan Mackinnon
- Connor McDavid

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[Play]

Atm? Kucherov

End of the season? McDavid or Foegele

 

[Dion TheFluff]

Auston Matthews

 

[Peasy]

If matthews scores 70+ goals and 100+ points it has to be him right?

Those 3 are pacing for insane point totals, but McDavid literally had 153 points last year.

70+ goals hasnt happened in over 30 years.

 

[Three On Zero]

MacKinnon
Matthews
Kucherov
Hughes




McDavid

 

[TheGoldenJet]

If matthews scores 70+ goals and 100+ points it has to be him right?

It will be McDavid, especially if he hits 100 assists and wins the Ross.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Panarin

 

[Buck Naked]

McDavid
Matthews
Hughes

Kucherov
MacKinnon

 

[klefbombs shoulder]

If matthews scores 70+ goals and 100+ points it has to be him right?

Those 3 are pacing for insane point totals, but McDavid literally had 153 points last year.

70+ goals hasnt happened in over 30 years.

100 assists hasnt happened since 1991. And something that only Gretzky, Lemieux, and Orr did is more impressive than something Nicholls, Kurri, Mogilny, and Selanne did.

 

[TheStatican]

100 assists hasnt happened since 1991. And something that only Gretzky, Lemieux, and Orr did is more impressive than something Nicholls, Kurri, Mogilny, and Selanne did.

Not a chance. Everyone knows Kuri and Nicholls only scored 70 thanks to Gretzky, and Mogilny and Selanne did in a year where teams were scoring a goal a game more than they do now and where powerplay scoring was more than 50% higher.

Matthews is currently on pace for 77 goals. 100 assists is obviously impressive in its own right but there is no chance that having the 14th highest asisst total in a season is historically greater than having the 5th highest goal total ever, zero.

 

[klefbombs shoulder]

Not a chance. Everyone knows Kuri and Nicholls only scored 70 thanks to Gretzky, and Mogilny and Selanne did in a year where teams were scoring a goal a game more than they do now and where powerplay scoring was more than 50% higher.

Matthews is currently on pace for 77 goals. 100 assists is obviously impressive in its own right but there is no chance that having the 14th highest asisst total in a season is historically greater than having the 5th highest goal total ever, zero.

I disagree. 11 of those 13 assist seasons came from one guy who broke the sport offensively. 100 assists is more impressive than 70 goals.

 

[Crow]

I was unimpressed with Matthews start to the year but this poll sucks without him at this point of the year. If he keeps up his pace he will win the hart.

 

[Gunnersaurus Rex]

Auston Matthews

....and his whopping 24 assists? Nope.

 

[Jared Dunn]

If Matthews scores 70 he's gotta be a top 3 finalist. He's also better defensively than any of those 3 guys, maybe Nate's on par

Hellebuyck and Quinn Hughes will get some love as well I think

 

[dirtydanglez]

there is no room left for mathews on the nasty piss floor of nate mackinnons bus.

 

[Dion TheFluff]

....and his whopping 24 assists? Nope.

yeah but McDavid and his whopping 21 goals will be a finalist eh?

 

[Suntouchable13]

It will be interesting which great player/season will be left off the top 3.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

I got Kuch

 

[Duder54]

If I had to vote right now, it’d probably be Kucherov.

End of the season? Could be any one of the three, especially if McDavid keeps up his pace from the last month.

 

[Despote]

Right now I have to say it's Matthews. The goalscoring is just too much to overlook now. We'll see where he finishes with Toronto having a tough schedule, but at 75+ goals it's his MVP.

McDavid has clearly reverted back to heavily pass-first style. He also has elite advanced defensive metrics, something Kucherov and MacKinnon don't have. I wonder how the voters would weight say a 35 goal, 140 point season vs a 55 goal, 130 point season and will McDavid garner attention for his superior defensive play.

 

[Zero Requiem]

Matthews should be an option.

 

[Dion TheFluff]

 

[klefbombs shoulder]

Ah, blocked shots.

And 45 min of PK is not noteworthy. His 45 min of PK counts, but McDavids 26 min doesn't? Neither is significant, buts its disingenuous to state one of these two PK's while the other doesn't.

 

[wetcoast]

It will be interesting which great player/season will be left off the top 3.

One teams fan base is going to go wild for sure.

My bet is that a previous Hart winner gets left off.

 

[Despote]

One teams fan base is going to go wild for sure.

My bet is that a previous Hart winner gets left off.

If McDavid ends up taking the Ross, especially if he puts some distance between him and Kuch I fully expect Kuch to not be a finalist. Don't think he has the narrative going for him.