GDT: NHL Draft Lottery 2024 (6:30 PM EST, ESPN)

[Viqsi]

So who we taking at 4 ?

Depends on who's available.

 

[Fred Glover]

Ok, go ahead and trade the pick.

I am absolutely on board with, package it even, to bring to the CBJ an upgrade in goal, and I mean a significantly better upgrade

 

[Aaaarrgghh]

4th overall then. Alright. My guess would be one of Demidov, Levshunov or Lindstrom for the Blue Jackets then come the draft. Can't complain too much about that. I just don't buy that they would pick Silayev with one of those three left on the table.

 

[Long Live Lyle]

I am absolutely on board with, package it even, to bring to the CBJ an upgrade in goal, and I mean a significantly better upgrade

There’s no goalie in the world worth the #4 overall on its own, let alone in a package.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Trading this pick would be like the Provorov trade on steroids.

Ottawa traded a top 10 pick for a guy who walked on them a year later. It’s bad optics for a team that’s not close to a cup.

All in favor of keeping the pick and moving forward with the kid.

 

[KJ Dangler]

4th overall then. Alright. My guess would be one of Demidov, Levshunov or Lindstrom for the Blue Jackets then come the draft. Can't complain too much about that. I just don't buy that they would pick Silayev with one of those three left on the table.

Mackenzie has after Celibrini
Demodov
Silayev
Levshunov
Lindstrom


Wheeler had
Demidov
Levshunov
Buium
Parekh
Eiserman

 

[VT]

There's nothing terrible about that. The top 5 is balanced. But even if we pick last, it's important to work the players, and we can be like Edmonton or Buffalo.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

There’s no goalie in the world worth the #4 overall on its own, let alone in a package.

Highly disagree with that.

 

[CBJx614]

Highly disagree with that.

Most goalies aren't consistent enough to be worth that, and a bad team can devalue a good goalie in the course of a season. This team isn't consistent enough to give up the future for a goalie.



How did Schneider work out for NJ? Yes he was a great goalie, but they made the playoffs once in his time there. And the pick they traded for him?



Bo Horvat.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Most goalies aren't consistent enough to be worth that, and a bad team can devalue a good goalie in the course of a season. This team isn't consistent enough to give up the future for a goalie.

How did Schneider work out for NJ? Yes he was a great goalie, but they made the playoffs once in his time there. And the pick they traded for him?

Bo Horvat.

The 4th pick is a crap shoot.

Do I really need to bring up Zherdev? Klesla? RyJo?

And those are just Blue Jackets.

 

[CBJx614]

The 4th pick is a crap shoot.

Do I really need to bring up Zherdev? Klesla? RyJo?

And those are just Blue Jackets.

This isn't 2003. Yes, there's no such thing as a sure thing, but teams are much more in informed than they were 21 years ago.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

The 4th pick is a crap shoot.

Do I really need to bring up Zherdev? Klesla? RyJo?

And those are just Blue Jackets.

You can do the exact same argument the other way.

Cale Makar, Brady Tkachuk, Lucas Raymond, Mitch Marner.

What’re we doing here

 

[spintheblackcircle]

You can do the exact same argument the other way.

Cale Makar, Brady Tkachuk, Lucas Raymond, Mitch Marner.

What’re we doing here

Saying the 4th pick is as much of a crap shoot as trading for a top-5 goalie

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Saying the 4th pick is as much of a crap shoot as trading for a top-5 goalie

What team is trading a top 5 goalie anyway? The only goalies worth discussing with this trade are Shesterkin, Sorokin, Vasilevskiy, maybe Swayman, etc. these guys aren’t moving

 

[spintheblackcircle]

What team is trading a top 5 goalie anyway? The only goalies worth discussing with this trade are Shesterkin, Sorokin, Vasilevskiy, maybe Swayman, etc. these guys aren’t moving

The comment I replied to was "No goalie is worth the 4th pick"

I disagreed

That's how message boards go.

 

[stevo61]

You can do the exact same argument the other way.

Cale Makar, Brady Tkachuk, Lucas Raymond, Mitch Marner.

What’re we doing here

what the usual suspects generally do. Try to imagine a worst case scenario and try to drag down anyone who wants to see the upside

 

[CharlotteJacket]

The whole draft order went chalk with no team moving up or down.

Too me that is weird. I wish they would show the backroom when the bingo balls are flying all around so we can see how every team in order is selected.

 

[TaketheCannoli]

Jackets pull #4, same old shit, different flies.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

We'd still draft Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan.

There’s no goalie in the world worth the #4 overall on its own, let alone in a package.

I'm not sure there is a goalie in this class worth any slot in the top 2 rounds.

 

[CalBuckeyeRob]

Why do goalies always take so long to get NHL ready? You stand there and stop shots and no one is permitted to hit you. You would think that would be the easiest transition.

 

[MissADD]

Why do goalies always take so long to get NHL ready? You stand there and stop shots and no one is permitted to hit you. You would think that would be the easiest transition.

I wasn't a hockey goalie, I was a soccer goalie, and obviously I never went pro in soccer, but my best guess is the mental aspect of it. Goalie in any sport you have to be mentally tough and crazy. More so than the other positions. Much like kicker/punter or a baseball closer, you have to have a couple of screws loose, but at the same time know when to be level headed. Its a fine balance that takes time to figure out.

 

[CBJx614]

Why do goalies always take so long to get NHL ready? You stand there and stop shots and no one is permitted to hit you. You would think that would be the easiest transition.

You're only as good as the best competition you're used to playing against. Going from the jrs playing kids to a professional league like the AHL playing against grown men is hard enough, let alone the NHL...

It can take time to adjust moving up to the next league, and a goalies confidence can be shattered quickly. Guys who can immediately transition and have success are rarities. Playing goalie is one of the highest pressure positions on the ice, it's the only player on the ice for all 60 minutes... Other positions get to not only take a physical rest, but a mental rest as they sit on the bench and can turn their brain off for 90 seconds and watch and analyze what happened, they can talk to coaches and other players.

A goalie is stuck in his own head for 20 minutes at a time. It takes someone with a lot of mental fortitude to not only make that transition but to do it as a teenager or early 20 something... Is extremely unlikely

 

[bleuetbio]

4th overall then. Alright. My guess would be one of Demidov, Levshunov or Lindstrom for the Blue Jackets then come the draft. Can't complain too much about that. I just don't buy that they would pick Silayev with one of those three left on the table.

There's a lot to talk since the draft, but what if... Actually a lot of rumors about picks

1- SJ - Celebrini
2- Chi - Dickinson
3- Ana - Buium

So the 4th spot is more than appealing at this point

 

[spintheblackcircle]

what the usual suspects generally do. Try to imagine a worst case scenario and try to drag down anyone who wants to see the upside

"Usual suspects", WTF are you going on about?

Tell me more about me

 

[Aaaarrgghh]

There's a lot to talk since the draft, but what if... Actually a lot of rumors about picks

1- SJ - Celebrini
2- Chi - Dickinson
3- Ana - Buium

So the 4th spot is more than appealing at this point

It's a good spot for sure. I thought before the lottery that as long as Columbus stay in the top 4, I'd be happy.

We'll see how it goes. Though I've myself said that I could absolutely see Anaheim pick Buium, the likeliest scenario in my mind right now is probably
2. Chicago - Demidov/Lindstrom
3. Anaheim - Levshunov

In this case, I personally think Columbus picks whoever is left of Demidov and Lindstrom, which I'd be happy with. The reason that might be Demidov in my mind is that Chicago's core forward group going forward – Bedard, Nazar and Moore – are all small guys. They could use some size and bite in their core. Levshunov is likely to be gone. Both Chicago and Anaheim could well take him.