conveniently that the last time he played like crap he was also coming off a wrist injury that sideline him for like half a season and who knows how long in the offseason and yeah he look eerily similar to that player but I guess the biggest diff was back then he was creating nothing at all.
This version is similar in terms of, no handles, no shot but still playing good defensively and setting up chances only for the play to constantly die on Mik and Hog's stick.
Misdirection doesn't make sense? This is the playoffs where telling the truth doesn't make sense.The misdirection theory makes no sense though because if Tocchet was lying to protect Pettersson physically he wouldn't go and call him out in the same breath.
Not a chance. If Pettersson was actually injured and Tocchet knew it he would have chosen his words much more carefully. Come on now.Misdirection doesn't make sense? This is the playoffs where telling the truth doesn't make sense.
The coach, like any manager, has to be seen as completely objective and playing no favorites, regardless of reality.
The thing that is apparent is that his shot is literally not there right now and the difference is night and day. Accuracy is gone, shot power is not the same and the slapper is essentially gone. there are reasons for that and compete is most likely not the reason.He's not injured. I don't know how much clearer it can get or how much clearer the team can be about it,
Look back at the chances Hog didn't convert, look back at all the shots Mik placed into the goalie. Also in order to create, the other player needs to be in the right position to receive the puck and when they get the puck, they need to be able to do shit with it. Rewatching the game, the most frustrating thing is 9/10 times in the offensive zone, you'll see Petey make the right play and then Hog/Karlsson and Mik will just f*** around and the play is dead and we are either defending or trying to set it up again and it's time for a change.He's still creating nothing. I'm not seeing these 'great chances' that his linemates are blowing and he looks just as crap on PP shifts and Lotto Line shifts.
we'll find out when offseason starts.Not a chance. If Pettersson was actually injured and Tocchet knew it he would have chosen his words much more carefully. Come on now.
Nah.Not a chance. If Pettersson was actually injured and Tocchet knew it he would have chosen his words much more carefully. Come on now.
The thing that is apparent is that his shot is literally not there right now and the difference is night and day. Accuracy is gone, shot power is not the same and the slapper is essentially gone. there are reasons for that and compete is most likely not the reason.
Look back at the chances Hog didn't convert, look back at all the shots Mik placed into the goalie. Also in order to create, the other player needs to be in the right position to receive the puck and when they get the puck, they need to be able to do shit with it. Rewatching the game, the most frustrating thing is 9/10 times in the offensive zone, you'll see Petey make the right play and then Hog/Karlsson and Mik will just f*** around and the play is dead and we are either defending or trying to set it up again and it's time for a change.
we'll find out when offseason starts.
Sure and I think we will find out definitely at the end of the season if there is actually anything. But are you going to dispute the fact his shot looks completely gone? And do you really believe that his compete is the reason why his shot is gone? I think even with low confidence, you can still technically apply the same force to shoot a puck...I'm not seeing all these great chances and great plays that his linemates are screwing up, and - again - he's played plenty with other players and isn't generating chances there either.
They also gave him Boeser on his wing for 6 or 7 games to close out the season when Miller was with Garland/Joshua and ... he didn't generate any chances for Boeser then, either.
If his wrist hurts he can still move his feet. But again - if he had some sort of serious wrist ailment, you wouldn't see the comments we're seeing from Tocchet. The coach wouldn't be talking about their freshly signed $11 million player like that if he knew the poor play was because he was gutting it through an injury.
fans here also want to turn on the players the moment there is anything.Fans are putting up more effort defending Pettersson than Pettersson is putting on the ice.
Whether he needs to or not is irrelevant. The coach wouldn't have chosen those words if Pettersson was actually injured. He's calling him right out.Nah.
Do you honestly think Petey needs to be shamed into playing better?
He’s the alien and thinks the game better than anyone on this team which is reflected by his contract extension.
i think something about his hands is compromised and he can't shoot or dangle at 100% and it's at a state where it can't get worse but it won't get better until offseason injury.Whether he needs to or not is irrelevant. The coach wouldn't have chosen those words if Pettersson was actually injured. He's calling him right out.
fans here also want to turn on the players the moment there is anything.
Hughes -> Weak on the skates, or small or whatever, can't defend.. actually i don't remember what the criticism was back then.. maybe ignore the weak on skates part ..
Miller -> Bad body language!!
Boeser -> Who cares if his dad died! I didn't shed a tear when my whole family passed. Hockey > life
Petey -> moody little bitch who doesn't compete and gives up on team.
Everyone agrees that he needs to be better.Fans are putting up more effort defending Pettersson than Pettersson is putting on the ice.
Rick Tocchet would NEVER admit that a Canuck player had an injury.
They also highlight just how impactful Draisaitl has been, despite the fact that he actually is injured.
And Tocchet even talks about how he's not cutting Pettersson's minutes at all (again, because he's not injured) and how Pettersson needs to take advantage of his time on the PP.
He basically flat out says that Pettersson's issue is his confidence.
Actually no, it is VERY relevant.Whether he needs to or not is irrelevant. The coach wouldn't have chosen those words if Pettersson was actually injured. He's calling him right out.
Those aren't my comments, so it sounds like you are the one who wants to vent by bringing those in and applying to me.Everyone agrees that he needs to be better.
If adding nuance to the "he needs to be better" commentary is "defending" then you just want to vent, not discuss.
Comments from other posters like "he's the worst player on his line" (lol) or "he's 100% not injured at all" are examples of people who just want to vent and have no further interest in the topic.
Pettersson shouldn't have dressed up for the All star games. Some player must have stolen his talent juice.
Definitely shouldn't have played the last two games of the regular season either.
EP's struggles seems to be mentally, low confidence and poor wingers. He also shouldn't have changed his stick model from last season. His shot sucks right now.
Sure and I think we will find out definitely at the end of the season if there is actually anything. But are you going to dispute the fact his shot looks completely gone? And do you really believe that his compete is the reason why his shot is gone? I think even with low confidence, you can still technically apply the same force to shoot a puck...
I honestly don't remember him playing with Boeser down the stretch, i do remember him being bleh. This is his points breakdown. His SOG basically dropped off like a cliff by the 2nd half. I am not sure you would see such a dropoff because he just decided to not compete. I think it corresponds to the fact something happened to his shot and he just stopped shooting less.
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fans here also want to turn on the players the moment there is anything.
Hughes -> Weak on the skates
Miller -> Bad body language!!
Boeser -> Who cares if his dad died! I didn't shed a tear when my whole family passed. Hockey > life
Petey -> moody little bitch who doesn't compete and gives up on team.
If he has a hand/wrist injury, I doubt he is taking faceoffs. Last time he was hurt in that area, JTM played center on his line and took all the draws, iirc.i think something about his hands is compromised and he can't shoot or dangle at 100% and it's at a state where it can't get worse but it won't get better until offseason injury.
So from that perspective, it's probably good enough for Toc and he expects him to be able to produce and figure it out even if his hands is operating at 60-70%.
A valid point.....I remember Rutherford saying at the start of the season that 'just about everything had to go right' for the Canucks to even make the playoffs in 2023-24.In spite of all the bickering back and forth about whether he’s hurt or not, I’d like to remind everyone of how nice it is to be watching our team play in the middle of May. Go Canucks!
the hand mechanics of faceoff is pretty different than shooting. when you look at NHL shoot, they are essentially dragging/digging the stick into the ice to generate flex to shoot the puck. we've seen stills of Petey shooting earlier where you can see the stick flex quite a bit and if you look back at recent shots, there is barely any dragging even if he has time.If he has a hand/wrist injury, I doubt he is taking faceoffs. Last time he was hurt in that area, JTM played center on his line and took all the draws, iirc.
I think the most likely explanation for the lack of shots/dangles are that his confidence is completely shot. For shots, especially one-timers, there is literally a split second that separate a great shot and a whiff shot. Petey's timing is gone because he is unsure of himself. Obviously a guy that has no confidence will not be trying any dangles either.
I would love for Petey to be playing severely injured right now, only because that is a valid excuse for his recent play. But the evidence is not there for that conclusion. I think Petey need some help to get over his mental hurdle, and it is not something that will happen magically during the playoff schedule.
The alternative is that our $11.6m star center needs a star winger to help get him going. That is going to be quite an anchor on the team in a capped world.
Thinking that not liking it when talented players don't compete and badly underachieve as a result is a 'bias' is certainly something.
Pettersson had more to give in the first half and was nowhere near his 22-23 levels of all-around play but you'd never hear me saying he was 'bad' or didn't justify his contract. In the last few months, he's been flat-out bad and it's because his compete level is embarrassing. He looks scared to chase a puck if he knows he might get hit.