Eh, I don't think 3 times is a coincidence. DeBoer makes the adjustments and Bednar doesn't. DeBoer's players can make simple plays, Bednar's can't. He just has his number, doesn't make him a mastermind, just that he knows how to break Bednar's system.
GDT: R2G4 - Stars @ Avs - The Gang makes a GDT
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Avsfan1921
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I don’t think I’m entirely for blowing it up either, but the amount of drama that has went along with this season is a huge red flag imo. It’s not like two players getting heated in practise dropping the mitts, but real animosity towards one another. Very concerning imo, and not sure a new voice fixes that.
I don't think you can point to anything in this series pointing towards Bednar being outcoached. His team has played like ass and failed to finish. Game 1 was a slugfest and both teams looked great at times. Games 2 and 3 were huge letdowns but had huge chunks where the Avs looked like the better team despite being unable to finish. Keep this is mind, finishing is not on the coach to do but the players, and tonight they just looked like deer in the headlights and like nobody gave a shit.
Nothing here makes me believe DeBoer is any better than Bednar. Just that his players and depth actually execute. Does Bednar make them pass the puck 40 times before shooting on the PP?
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When I first dialed into this board a few short years ago, quickly saw Bednar almost always differentiated. "The players", "the players". He rarely, like I cannot recall a definitive time he said "I am responsible". Was quite off put by that. Which went on for several years.
Landeskog's maturation as a captain meant a great deal.
Been seeing more reverting by Bednar to the Beds of yore. Even tho he said 'we', it was "The players", "the players". Agree with littletonhockeycoach... that part of the organization experience ain't working. Glaring imnsho.
Bummer to me is careers getting wasted in this circling the 2 and out culture BC before cup and AC after cup.
They miss Landy in the worst-er way.
And he's not the only NHL coach who knows how to do so.
Side light comment...... why do the Stars win most of the close in puck battles over the Avs?
1. They outnumber the opponent (Hockey coaching 101)
2. They take away the opponent's stick allowing F2 to capture the puck.
They don't back off and try to defend the Avs AFTER the Avs have taken possession. They make sure the Avs never get possession.
That's fundamentals. Hockey 101. That's what DeBoers assistants coach.
The Avs play the puck. The Stars play the Avs sticks.
People are always talking about how Rantanen is a 100 point player. But here is a question. How many points does he get on a team without MacKinnon and Makar?
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Not to the same degree but so should Makar, Rantanen and MacKinnon over the last 2 games.
It was embarrassing the number of times that Dallas had the puck and just had zero pressure until they get to the Avs zone.
Two that burn my mind the most is the play that led to the SHG and when Duchene didn't even have a stick and was able to make it all the way to the offensive zone before an attempt to check him was even made.
Two that burn my mind the most is the play that led to the SHG and when Duchene didn't even have a stick and was able to make it all the way to the offensive zone before an attempt to check him was even made.
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Probably not since his 3 year, $14.5mil extension hasn’t even kicked in yet, but one (or quite a few) can dream…
My bad, apologies. Perhaps it’s just me that poured a stiff one.
I don’t know how ‘various levels of play’ relate to men who get paid upwards of $12mm a year. Or your experience with them (which you may have).
UncleRisto
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I mean, how many points does MacKinnon score on a team without Makar and Rantanen is the exact same question.
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So was tonight Cale Makar's worst career game? Watching the highlights he looked like a disaster.
Martin “f’ing” Jones had a better SV% and let in less goals than grubauer that series. Of course PDB might have played Jedi mind tricks on the Landeskog too many men penalty. These are some class act adjustments.
I don’t know if some haven’t been around long enough, or if their (or perhaps my) memory is failing them/me.
2019 - Sharks were 2nd in the west. Avs we’re the #8, second wild card team that beat the #1 seed flames.
I can’t imagine how that particular loss to the Sharks makes PDB a hockey genius.
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I do notice this a lot, especially on the PK. When the Stars defend they swarm players as the puck is getting to the offensive player. With the Avs, they wait until the other team has possession before they decide what to do next.
UncleRisto
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I see we're doing the time-honored tradition of the eeking out of a relationship exit plan. ROR got it, Stastny got it, Landeskog got it when he got close...
Y'all started dieting and took up pilates again.
Y'all started dieting and took up pilates again.
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Last year he was fantastic when MacK and Makar were out.
But I too am heavily leaning towards trading him. I think we need to take his probable asking price of 13M and split it between two top six forwards.
They are definitely focusing on keeping MacKinnon from having any space. That's when the others need to step up.
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That Cup in 2022 cost as our soul. First Landeskog, then this former russian winger and AVS player shitting on his team 2 years in a row, last year one injury after another.....Girard entering the program.... And the list goes on and on.
This series shows it again:
This team has no leader and captain. When everything is going their way they can play like a very good team. The moment this team faces some adversity, they are basically done.
As i said it on Sunday: This is the Vegas-Series all over again. Only this time it ends in 5 games and looks even worse.
At this point we are the Washington Capitals of the west:
Got it done once, thank you, thats enough.
Without some major changes, even on the core, and coaching staff, this will continue again and again. Book it.
This series shows it again:
This team has no leader and captain. When everything is going their way they can play like a very good team. The moment this team faces some adversity, they are basically done.
As i said it on Sunday: This is the Vegas-Series all over again. Only this time it ends in 5 games and looks even worse.
At this point we are the Washington Capitals of the west:
Got it done once, thank you, thats enough.
Without some major changes, even on the core, and coaching staff, this will continue again and again. Book it.
Of all the A's Cale was the only one that had the courage to face the media. After Landy retires this summer he needs to be named the C.
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