It qas outlandish to ask for robert thomas for bits and pieces
But hey blues need bits and pieces for pur best play
But hey blues need bits and pieces for pur best play
Proposal: Robert Thomas to Detroit
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SoupNazi
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Then feel free to provide a counteroffer. But in the meantime, there's nothing wrong with the thread. You have free will here and are free to participate or not participate.
So op offers small pieces for blues bwst player which is an insault but also low ball then want to discuss. Yet i low ball foe evidson and sieder amd get laughed at..funny how that works
I did evidson swider for kyrou buch and a 1st
SoupNazi
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Seider would be a no go, but yeah, Edvisson and some major +(s)
In other words, it would absolutely HURT whatever deal the Wings would have to put forth
Robert Thomas has to be right up there with the most overrated players in the league.
Linkens Mastery
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Works for us. We'll keep our over-rated player.
bleedblue1223
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Your Thomas takes have always been terrible.
Voight
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You really think you're going to get a #1C for that return? Let alone one who's 24 and signed long term at a reasonable cap hit and who just had his best season.
The Real Pastafarian
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Dude, these Blues fans are a lot more polite than either you or I would be if someone suggested a trade of Seider for a mid-round first and a couple of good but not great prospects.
And honestly Thomas might have a little higher market value than Seider, despite Seider's position and handedness.
Sorry fellers, I'm going to help my apparently drunk friend back to the Red Wings section. Shoot, looks like he peed a little bit, we'll send somebody back to help clean that up.
DingDongCharlie
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reinhart plays primarily wing. so take him off this list. The guys falling in 8-15 range are very much interchangeable.
I think in the right situation a #8, #15 and two young top 4 potential D is definitely enough for a #1C.
For Thomas though? Definitely not
There was a Sens fan that said it would take Thomas + Kyrou + Binnington + 1st for Tkachuck + Korpisalo lol
There was a Sens fan that said it would take Thomas + Kyrou + Binnington + 1st for Tkachuck + Korpisalo lol
Voight
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Depending on their age, contract status and the teams direction (i.e. that would be a good return for a team devoid of picks/.prospects starting a rebuild)
That’s what I mean depends on the situation.
STL isn’t in that situation though and it’s not enough for him anyways.
Oh man just read this rollercoaster of a thread. As a Blues fan I recognize the value of the pieces the OP put forward but there is just no way Thomas is available for a collection of pieces. You have to understand Thomas is to us as Larkin is to Detroit. That being said I do think these teams would make potentially good trade partners on a smaller scale as the Blues need to add to their defensive prospect pool and Detroit has some pieces there.
Linkens Mastery
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100%. I could definitely see something happening Between Buch and the Wings 1st. Especially if the Wings want to Extend Buch.
But anything that would involve Thomas, Seider, Kasper, or Edvinsson just wouldn't happen. Neither team is in a position to move any of those players.
I wasn't really referring to the high end guys. I was talking more about guys like Wallinder, Buium and Gibson. Although if Detroit was willing to move Edvinsson I would put Dvorsky on the table in a prospect swap.
WingsToPick4th
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Reading is hard I guess evidently for every blues fan in this thread.
My OP said:
“DET offers
2024 1st (15OA)
Marco Kasper (C) (former 8 overall pick)
William Wallinder (LHD)
Andrew Gibson (RHD)
Would this be ball park? or do blues want more? I know they wont trade him but just curious”
Maybe 2 ppl have provided any actual discussion (such as buch for 15 which I’d do) they are all just butt hurt Betty’s & don’t offer actual counter offers. Sorry I suggested a trade on a hockey forums board lol
My OP said:
“DET offers
2024 1st (15OA)
Marco Kasper (C) (former 8 overall pick)
William Wallinder (LHD)
Andrew Gibson (RHD)
Would this be ball park? or do blues want more? I know they wont trade him but just curious”
Maybe 2 ppl have provided any actual discussion (such as buch for 15 which I’d do) they are all just butt hurt Betty’s & don’t offer actual counter offers. Sorry I suggested a trade on a hockey forums board lol
Linkens Mastery
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Trading Thomas just doesn't make sense for the Blues.
There's nothing really logical that can be offered to the Blues to warrant Thomas being moved at the current state of The Blues franchise. Their center core is currently Thomas, Schenn, and Hayes.
Schenn should be on the wing and Hayes is just a warm body until Dvorsky shows he's able to be an NHL caliber center.
Thomas is the player the offense AND defence of the forward group goes through and just scored 85 points as a 24 year old while we had to force Buch, a winger, to play Center because Schenn can't cut it there anymore and we're healthy scratching Hayes.
Please explain to me why the Blues would trade the current face of their franchise for that package? Would you trade 24 year old Larkin for that package? Because I wouldn't.
No combination of assets you offered are worth trading away our top line all situations Center and force us into a long term rebuild which the management group and ownership group have been very vocal against.
If you want to talk about Buch then we can. But at the state the Blues are in, any conversation that starts off with Thomas you are going to get a resounding no.
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grewalwings
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Those pieces are a collection of extras. You didn't include your top prospect or top defensive prospects. (I don't care where someone was drafted.....)
You managed to add our top player (a ppg player this year as a 24 year old center) or extras . There is nothing in that proposal that actually hurts to give up. No Edvinsson, no ASP. No Danielson. Putting a bunch of mid stuff into a proposal doesn't add value.
You want a teams top player - it should hurt.
Even your fellow Detroit fans point this out. So, yes.... reading is hard - when the proposal is garbage.
bleedblue1223
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Why resort to insults on a proposal that doesn't make sense. If we made a thread offering #16, Dvorsky, Lindstein, and Buchinger for Seider, Detroit fans would have a similar reaction where it doesn't even make sense to counter. And this is even ignoring how Dvorsky is ranked higher than Kasper in most, if not all rankings that I've seen, and depending on the ranking, Dvorsky and Snuggerud are sometimes even on par or ahead of Edvinsson.
Value wise to get Thomas, it would require a deal around Seider or Edvinsson++. You guys have plenty of stuff to make a deal for Buchnevich, but if you were looking for a discussion around Thomas, there just isn't one to be had.
BleedBlue14
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Are you wanting someone to say add Seider to that package?
I just read the last 2 pages and there are 4-5 explanations of why it doesn’t work for the Blues. Isn’t that a better solution than throwing together a random package that is a screw job for Detroit?
stl76
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There’s no reasonable conversation to be had around Thomas. If that upsets you, get over it.
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