I'm not understanding your comments. There are no rumours being spread about Cali.
He's a seemingly uncommitted first rounder that came to camp and said all of the right things. Your reasons for being worried are not obvious to me.
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He's a seemingly uncommitted first rounder that came to camp and said all of the right things. Your reasons for being worried are not obvious to me.
Perhaps he seriously thinking about the USHL route....Muskegon did take him fairly high.
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i dont think hes ready for the ushl to be honest. i think alot of the ontario kids will struggle, outside of maybe croskery.
he was making noise all year about ncaa. his mom was a high level hockey player who did well there. towards the end of the year it did sound like he was an ohl guy. i didn't think he was a rock solid 1st, hes one of those heavy two way guys who probably doesnt get a point a game until hes 19 but hes a very good player. with all the kids going bchl/ushl i cant argue him at that spot.
he wont play in the ushl next year that draft is not about this year, but maybe a prep school and then ushl? im sure the soo drafted him with the statement from him that hed report.
i remember posting that he was not nearly as good as they said and got nailed for it, like personal, aggressive and mean about it. its bizarre how protective and defensive some are. online allows that i guess.
If he's not ready for the USHL then the same could be said for the OHL.....was the Ontario 08 that weak of a class? If so, then the 26 NHL draft for N.A. players is going to be really subpar as the U.S. 08 class is certainly nothing to get excited about.....
ushl is harder for younger players, most 4th line guys are older players who trying to get d1 commits. they had less games played for 07s then the OHL did despite pulling from the country, not just the provence. a kid like matt coronato didnt make the league at 16 and was a 1st round nhl pick. zach morin would have gone 1 in the qmjhl and he barely played last year in youngston, 5-8 minutes a night on average based on instat ice time.
Possible but Cali has the size and strength to play for Muskegon (albeit in a limited/sheltered role) next year and I think playing in the USHL next season would be better for his long term development than playing Prep hockey.
Apparently, there are some legs to the rumor of Cali to Muskegon (sorry Soo fans....but still just rumors).
The USHL has made massive gains in terms of recruiting elite players over the past few seasons and it just seems that now the flood gates have opened.
Pretty grievous blow to the Hounds if both Cali and Croskery fail to report...but this is something that a lot of OHL organizations may soon be facing.
with cali i dont worry about the compete/two way stuff, that is there in spades, i worry about how much of a play driver he will be, so personally id want him to go somewhere and drive offense, if its jr b like cowan then great, but it wont be in the ushl. hed get pigeon holed and not play any offensive minutes.
what i will say is the ncaa thing seemed to be what he wanted to do in november/december, i heard he was more ohl in march. i didnt talk to the kid or his agent so i have no idea where he was at at the draft.
If I’m not mistaken, and feel free to correct me if I’m not, but isn’t there something in place if a first or second round pick doesn’t report or sign? I feel there is…
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Attended the first two games of the Memorial Cup. London and Saginaw are two much stronger/deeper teams IMO. I know they lost in the second round, but the Hounds were much closer to going further than the 2nd round exit showed. Now that the dust is pretty much settled, I’m happy with the performance this year. I just hope we sell next year to retool for the future. It’d be nice to hit on a few imports as well.
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Greyhounds' Jack Beck signs with AHL's Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins - Soo Greyhounds
WILKES-BARRE, Pa. – The Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins have announced that they have signed Soo Greyhounds overage forward Jack Beck to American Hockey League contract that runs through the 2024-25 season. Beck played four seasons in the OHL, splitting time between the Ottawa 67’s and Sault Ste...
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Good for him. I remember him in Ottawa he was always very talented but injury plagued.Greyhounds' Jack Beck signs with AHL's Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins - Soo Greyhounds
WILKES-BARRE, Pa. – The Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins have announced that they have signed Soo Greyhounds overage forward Jack Beck to American Hockey League contract that runs through the 2024-25 season. Beck played four seasons in the OHL, splitting time between the Ottawa 67’s and Sault Ste...
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I think it's fair value.
I was very impressed with the right shot defense options that were at prospect camp (Solomon, Gillen, Pangretitsch, Allen, Zuyev). This kick starts the rebuild while dealing from an area of strength. I am ok with this trade.
I was very impressed with the right shot defense options that were at prospect camp (Solomon, Gillen, Pangretitsch, Allen, Zuyev). This kick starts the rebuild while dealing from an area of strength. I am ok with this trade.
does this mean the rebuild has begun or did Virgilio request a trade to a team he feels will be competitive sooner? seems odd to kick off a rebuild by trading a guy that still has 2 (maybe 3) seasons left in his OHL career but i'm happy with the return as he parlayed a 4th round selection into 4 picks.
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I would seriously consider a trade for Chromiak now who is purportedly being shopped. He should not cost half as much as we just got for Virgilio, and would be a good stopgap solution on defense. It was always going to be unlikely that we hit gold on both import picks this summer. That would let us concentrate on landing one impact import this summer, and then another one next summer.
We were expecting Virgilio to have value of about 3 high picks at the deadline. He had a poor finish to the season and a poor postseason, but that valuation was still about correct. Like Pops said, it deals from an area of strength.
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It’s probably about ice time. Niagara has a weak d core and he probably feels he could get first or second line minutes there
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I am not so sure this was about ice time. Virgilio was on pace to start the year with 2nd line minutes, and then move up to top line when Gibson is dealt at the deadline.
I suspect the trade originated with Raftis, but he wouldn't habe had any trouble spinning it as a positive for Virgilio.
I suspect the trade originated with Raftis, but he wouldn't habe had any trouble spinning it as a positive for Virgilio.
Hfp noted at the deadline that Virgilio had requested a trade. I expect that was true, as he usually has good info and this trade happened so quickly after the season.
is our defense that strong next year? beyond gibby and carlisle (presumed OA) we have 2 guys who took turns walking the concourse last year. am i missing something? Evans and BMB have promise but will be tested this year, and we could end up with 2 rookies rounding out the roster if we don't pick up a vet at the import draft or deal assets to bring someone in.
i'm not disagreeing with moving virgilio either, imo we need to make some moves and anybody 2006 or older should be on the table.
i'm not disagreeing with moving virgilio either, imo we need to make some moves and anybody 2006 or older should be on the table.
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looks like on instat his ice time was good to start and fell off to end, he was about 14 minutes a game in the last 10 games of the season and then about 10 minutes a night in the playoffs.
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