Confirmed with Link: Tomas Hertl 17% retained, 2025 3rd, 2027 3rd to Vegas for C David Edstrom, 2025 1st

[NWSharkie]

Yah, I think I was considering asking about adding "how long until there's a Joner goal" for the SNOG situation during that time. It was soooo bad.

I'm not sure we have a rivalry with Vegas anymore.

Like a Frosted Mini-Wheat... the frosted side of me says, "LALALALALALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!! LALALALA!!" But, the whole wheat side of me says, "Sharks are so much worse than The VeeGees that I can't call them rivals. The talent gap is waay too big..."

Sure, maybe it takes two competitive teams to have a rivalry. But rivalries come and go; true fandom hatred and contempt are forever, and isn't that the real meaning of Christmas?

Also, f*** the Knights, Kings, Ducks, Dallas Cowboys, John Fisher...

 

[TheBeard]

Sure, maybe it takes two competitive teams to have a rivalry. But rivalries come and go; true fandom hatred and contempt are forever, and isn't that the real meaning of Christmas?

Also, f*** the Knights, Kings, Ducks, Dallas Cowboys, John Fisher...

Rivalries aren’t contingent on success. Montreal and Toronto will always have one. Same with Calgary/Edmonton.

Vegas fans no longer think they have a rivalry with us because they haven’t been around long enough to have history with anyone, but they certainly have a hard time keeping the sharks name out of their mouths.

 

[Hodge]

Rivalries aren’t contingent on success. Montreal and Toronto will always have one. Same with Calgary/Edmonton.

Vegas fans no longer thing they have a rivalry with us because they haven’t been around long enough to have history with anyone, but they certainly have a hard time keeping the sharks name out of their mouths.

I still hate LA, Anaheim and even teams like Detroit and Vancouver more than Vegas. The teams that beat us when we actually had a chance to win the Cup will always hurt more.

 

[landshark]

Sure, maybe it takes two competitive teams to have a rivalry. But rivalries come and go; true fandom hatred and contempt are forever, and isn't that the real meaning of Christmas?

Also, f*** the Knights, Kings, Ducks, Dallas Cowboys, John Fisher...

You left out Belfour and maybe Theo Fleury.

 

[TheBeard]

I still hate LA, Anaheim and even teams like Detroit and Vancouver more than Vegas. The teams that beat us when we actually had a chance to win the Cup will always hurt more.

Hating teams is different from a rivalry.

 

[sharks_dynasty]

Hating teams is different from a rivalry.

Heck, I even hate the Sharks at times! Those pathetic losers!

 

[jarr92]

Hating teams is different from a rivalry.

IMO some of the rivalry died when Gallant and Reaves left. Kane v Reaves definitely added some fire.

 

[Hodge]

Hating teams is different from a rivalry.

True but after this season the only Shark remaining from the 2019 series will be Vlasic so it's hard to say the rivalry is still alive either.

 

[TheBeard]

IMO some of the rivalry died when Gallant and Reaves left. Kane v Reaves definitely added some fire.

It helped but undoubtedly the rivalry is still strong. Just look at the reaction from Sharks fans not just when Hertl was traded but to who. The unanimous conscientious was "Anyone but Vegas".

True but after this season the only Shark remaining from the 2019 series will be Vlasic so it's hard to say the rivalry is still alive either.

Rivalry goes beyond the players on the ice. In 3 years when we're decent and they're on the bottom of the standings I'll still hate them with a passion.

 

[sharski]

I looooooooove the Canucks I just hated bieksa

 

[tahoesharksfan]

Y'all getting off track here....

 

[sharski]

Y'all getting off track here....

Just like Hertl thought the Sharks had gotten off track with their goals of being a perennial playoff team, thus demanding a trade

You're welcome, @modz

 

[LadyStanley]

Paywall

 

[Stewie Griffin]

He doesn't need to be a difference maker, he was drafted 32nd for a reason. If he becomes a good 3rd liner that's a huge win. Add in the 1st and enough cap space to sign a top-6 winger/top-4 d...its a good trade.

 

[mogambomoroo]

Edström as an permanent 3C and occasional 2C when injuries happen with PP2 and PK1/2 time could be some fun times for us.

 

[Alaskanice]

Kids going to grow and get better. He’s already showing that.

 

[RussianShark]

You left out Belfour and maybe Theo Fleury.

Why do we hate Fleury? Before my time.

 

[coooldude]

Why do we hate Fleury? Before my time.

Because he was a 5'6" little pest asshole who scored like a point per game or more vs. the Sharks. The closest current comp I could imagine is our own personal Marchand. I think he got under other teams' skin as well, but I don't think he was as universally hated as Marchand, but he certainly was for Sharks fans in the 90's.

Really sad to see everything he was dealing with his whole life and makes his career pretty impressive. Hockey really does have a broken culture, particularly in Canadian Juniors.

EDIT: link to NYT profile from 1999

 

[landshark]

Why do we hate Fleury? Before my time.

He broke one of Sharkie's ribs.

Last year in San Jose, Theo Fleury was playing for the New York Rangers and playing his usual game, which meant he was thrown out before the third period ended. On his way to the dressing room, Fleury ran into Sharks mascot, S.J. Sharkie. The next thing you know, Fleury's carrying on like Robert Shaw trying not to get eaten in Jaws. Fortunately for Fleury, he got away, while Sharkie reportedly suffered a broken rib.

No doubt it would have been a dark day for the NHL had it lost one of its star players to a land-shark attack.

Look at these hacks misspelling. Landshark...

Also, we traded for his rights and he didn't want to re-sign with us. Here's a list with some explanations...

The Villains Of The San Jose Sharks - Teal Town USA

Almost since their inception, the San Jose Sharks have had their share of villains. The amount of vitriol some players could evoke from the Sharks fan base was impressive and inspiring. Words cannot aptly describe hearing 17,000 fans screaming “BELLLLLLLL FOOOUUURRRRR” in person. For long time...

tealtownusa.com

hahaha, I forgot about this picture of Dustbin Brown:

 

[Jargon]

Someone posted our Cup finals lineup and I was struck by how not impressive our bottom 6 was. James Sheppard as a 3C?

That was often the issue with DW teams, and if Edstrom and Bystedt hit their projection, a Bystedt - Edstrom - Zetterlund 3rd line would be an absolute beast to contend with. With Celebrini as your 1C and Smith as your 2C, that’s not a bad start to a lineup.

So yeah, I dig the pick up. I also like that Edstrom has improved a lot this year - that bodes well too (now we need Bystedt to re-find his game a little).

 

[Tw1ster]

That was often the issue with DW teams, and if Edstrom and Bystedt hit their projection, a Bystedt - Edstrom - Zetterlund 3rd line would be an absolute beast to contend with. With Celebrini as your 1C and Smith as your 2C, that’s not a bad start to a lineup.

Add future captain and veteran presence Luke Kunin to that line up and you’ve got a contender on your hands

 

[Hodge]

Someone posted our Cup finals lineup and I was struck by how not impressive our bottom 6 was. James Sheppard as a 3C?

That was often the issue with DW teams, and if Edstrom and Bystedt hit their projection, a Bystedt - Edstrom - Zetterlund 3rd line would be an absolute beast to contend with. With Celebrini as your 1C and Smith as your 2C, that’s not a bad start to a lineup.

So yeah, I dig the pick up. I also like that Edstrom has improved a lot this year - that bodes well too (now we need Bystedt to re-find his game a little).

Sheppard wasn't on the team in 2016 but overall that was kind of a fluke run with a solid but unspectacular lineup. Instead of realizing it was one final high note at the end of a decade long contention window, DW spent the next 2 years trading four first round picks and handing out a half dozen max term contracts to 30 year olds in a desperate attempt to win with an over the hill core.

 

[Jargon]

Add future captain and veteran presence Luke Kunin to that line up and you’ve got a contender on your hands

Honestly, as a 4th liner on a playoff team, Kunin would be great.

 

[Saskatoon]

Sheppard wasn't on the team in 2016 but overall that was kind of a fluke run with a solid but unspectacular lineup. Instead of realizing it was one final high note at the end of a decade long contention window, DW spent the next 2 years trading four first round picks and handing out a half dozen max term contracts to 30 year olds in a desperate attempt to win with an over the hill core.

2019 Sharks were a good team - definitely had a shot

I am just mad DW stuck with Jones through that season.

 

[Gecklund]

Someone posted our Cup finals lineup and I was struck by how not impressive our bottom 6 was. James Sheppard as a 3C?

That was often the issue with DW teams, and if Edstrom and Bystedt hit their projection, a Bystedt - Edstrom - Zetterlund 3rd line would be an absolute beast to contend with. With Celebrini as your 1C and Smith as your 2C, that’s not a bad start to a lineup.

So yeah, I dig the pick up. I also like that Edstrom has improved a lot this year - that bodes well too (now we need Bystedt to re-find his game a little).

There were tons of injuries by the time we got to the finals too.