What wrong with "Mitch'in" Marner?

[Dicky113]

I find it crazy that Matthews get a pass but Marner doesn’t. Is it because regular season goals or because Marner has a “please punch me” kind of face? As players, he actually shows up more than Austen in the playoffs which isn’t saying much but still, not sure why both of these guys arent laughed out of town.

 

[thaman8765678]

I find it crazy that Matthews get a pass but Marner doesn’t. Is it because regular season goals or because Marner has a “please punch me” kind of face? As players, he actually shows up more than Austen in the playoffs which isn’t saying much but still, not sure why both of these guys arent laughed out of town.

Leafs fans have the blinders on for Matthews. He actually is much more disappointing in playoffs relative to expectations of being an "elite player" and his size.

I never want to hear Matthews being brought up in the same breath as Mackinnon or McDavid again. The biggest comparable would be tin man Joe Thornton.

 

[BB79]

Nothing. Nothing is wrong with him. Just keep doing what you're doing, Mitch.

 

[Apex Predator]

I find it crazy that Matthews get a pass but Marner doesn’t. Is it because regular season goals or because Marner has a “please punch me” kind of face? As players, he actually shows up more than Austen in the playoffs which isn’t saying much but still, not sure why both of these guys arent laughed out of town.

I think one reason is how he handles the media. He is terrible and makes himself look worse when he talks.

 

[Number8]

Wow

All of a sudden I have a great deal of empathy for Mitch Marner. The old man seems like a wonderful guy.

 

[Apex Predator]

Guarantee he goes on a streak to start next year cause contract year, and Leafs will feel the need to give him an extension.

Sounds like nylander this year.

Back before the media and fans sunk their claws into Marner. Didn't even try to cover his face on the 2nd shot

What happened to this Marner?

 

[Based Anime Fan]

Sounds like nylander this year.


What happened to this Marner?

I can think of 6x10.893 things that happened to that Marner.

 

[Legend123]

I find it crazy that Matthews get a pass but Marner doesn’t. Is it because regular season goals or because Marner has a “please punch me” kind of face? As players, he actually shows up more than Austen in the playoffs which isn’t saying much but still, not sure why both of these guys arent laughed out of town.

It's because marner sucks even more and blatantly avoids physical contact in the most important games. He's a wimp

 

[dirtydanglez]

What happened to this Marner?

too much time in the spotlight? maybe he need to take a page out of drouins book.

 

[Byron Bitz]

Isn’t he coming off high ankle sprain?

Yes but he’s also run out of excuses and it’s time for him to just find a way to get it done like other elite players do like Mackinnon

 

[Fan from AK]

He sure did score a pretty goal yesterday though.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

The problem goes much deeper than Marner. It’s the whole core 4, the coach, and management.
But you need to start somewhere and he’s the most logical choice of the 4 players.
Really should have moved on from him a couple of years ago.

 

[Commander Clueless]

Marner is a fantastic player.

I don't think he is the type of player to ever hoist a team on his back. That's not really a knock against him necessarily, but he's paid like he is.

The Leafs problems run deeper.

I think this team needs to be stripped down to the studs and completely renovated. This structure doesn't work and it hasn't worked. The culture is non-existent.

Of course I thought that last year and here we are - in a worse place with yet another monster contract on the books.

I think it starts at the top with Shanahan and works its way down with a vengeance.

 

[johnnybbadd]

I’m still dumbfounded that a player that turns the puck over like Marner was actually a Selke finalist last year. Really makes me wonder how bad the voters are at evaluating these players. There is nothing that is more of a killer to a teams defence than turning the puck over unnecessarily.

 

[nhlfan9191]

I’m still dumbfounded that a player that turns the puck over like Marner was actually a Selke finalist last year. Really makes me wonder how bad the voters are at evaluating these players. There is nothing that is more of a killer to a teams defence than turning the puck over unnecessarily.

The Writers Association is always going to favour a big Canadian market like Toronto, especially for an award that’s above their head like what actually makes a forward great defensively.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

Leafs fans have the blinders on for Matthews. He actually is much more disappointing in playoffs relative to expectations of being an "elite player" and his size.

I never want to hear Matthews being brought up in the same breath as Mackinnon or McDavid again. The biggest comparable would be tin man Joe Thornton.

McDavid and MacKinnon have put up points in every single game of each of their respective series so far. Matthews has only put up points in 1 out of 4 games so far.

Both McDavid and MacKinnon have only once gone more than 2 games in a series where they didn't score any points. This is now the 4th series Matthews has played in where he was held scoreless for 3 games.

Matthews has put up 0 points in 52% of the playoff games he's played in (28/54). MacKinnon has put up 0 points in 23% of playoff games (19/81), McDavid in 19% (10/52).

Anyone who thinks Matthews is even comparable to McDavid or MacKinnon fundamentally doesn't understand hockey.

 

[EpochLink]

Leafs fans have the blinders on for Matthews. He actually is much more disappointing in playoffs relative to expectations of being an "elite player" and his size.

I never want to hear Matthews being brought up in the same breath as Mackinnon or McDavid again. The biggest comparable would be tin man Joe Thornton.

I'm actually stunned how ineffective Matthews is, sure he can score in the regular season and he looks like a beast. When the lights are brighter come playoff time, you have to show up. 1 goal in 4 games this year, that's not just bad that's inexcusable for a player of his caliber.

 

[Chips]

i think what you are seeing now is the end result of dubas valuing skill above all else. they could really use more players like hyman, kadri, and marchment

Is it just Dubas? Maybe they’ll trade Marner like Vegas might have and get some depth,

But the current GM also went with the same core, the same coach, and added some tough rep guys and the team most certainly did not get better.


It’s really hard to tell how much Shanahan is involved

 

[Buck Naked]

Matthews has only put up points in 1 out of 4 games so far.

This is now the 4th series Matthews has played in where he was held scoreless for 3 games.

Matthews has put up 0 points in 52% of the playoff games he's played in (28/54).

And yet here we are with another Marner bashing thread. Ridiculous! Matthews can do no wrong as long as he keeps scoring in the regular season..

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

He must be injured.

 

[Riseonfire]

Isn't it amazing?

Here we are.... AGAIN.....in April questioning the skill of one of the 'big 4' and/or Toronto's woes.

PLEASE....HF I am BEGGING YOU.... can we just pretend the Leafs don't exist until they do ANYTHING worthy of the attention? Just one ECF. Until then, the Leafs are trash.



But wait, next October we'll all forget and Toronto will be considered a cup contender once again.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

If Marner is one of your main offensive weapons come playoff time, your team ain't winning ****. He would be best used as a supporting piece but the issue is he's paid like a first line franchise player.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Blame the coach , blame marner , blame keefe , don't blame the franchise C that gets clamped every single post season and doesn't drive play.

Pinning it solely on Marner is hilarious

 

[goldenblack]

Give this man 12x8

 

[Frosty415]

Matthews is a bigger problem than Marner