Speculation: With the third pick in the 2024 NHL draft the Anaheim Ducks select...(Plus other Draft talk)

[Rasp]

Who are the duck going to draft at pick 3?

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[Zegs2sendhelp]

Assuming celebrini/Demidov are off board

BPA, that happens to be our biggest need also

Give me levshunov 10/10 times

 

[ohcomeonref]

I have a pile of Googling and YouTube videos to watch before I can even vote. I'm excited though!

 

[Anarchynate]

Zeev. After the NCAA tournament he had he’s my choice. Lev makes bone headed LaCombe plays too often for my liking

 

[shach1]

 

[DavidBL]

Honestly, everything I've heard is that the rankings from like 2-12 are wildly inconsistent so I would not be shocked it we take someone will feel like a reach, much like the Lindholm pick did.

 

[razor ray]

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Here is CapFriendly's scouting breakdown of Lev:

Artyom Levshunov Scouting Report - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

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[FiveTacos]

If he were LHD instead of RHD, would Levshunov still be most people's first choice for D? Or is he actually the best D prospect regardless of handedness?

 

[Rasp]

Silayev for reference. Bob McKenzie has him ranked #3 as the top D in the draft.

This would be a solid top 4 Silayev and Zellweger would complement each other quite well.
Silayev - Zellweger
Mintyukov - Luneau

Anton Silayev Scouting Report - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

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[nbducksfan19]

I’m Demidov then Levshunov, but could be talked into about 8 guys.

Wouldn’t be surprised if 6 of the top 8 are all very good NHLers, but also wouldn’t be surprised if over half were relative busts.

 

[2faded]

I think I would prefer the Russians. Demidov then Silayev. As long as Verbeek is confident there won't be issues with them coming over.

I'll be happy with whoever though.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

Silayev for reference. Bob McKenzie has him ranked #3 as the top D in the draft.

This would be a solid top 4 Silayev and Zellweger would complement each other quite well.
Silayev - Zellweger
Mintyukov - Luneau

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Anton Silayev Scouting Report - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

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Why do I have a fear this guy will be another Tyler Myers but with less offense?

 

[Anaheim4ever]

I think Chicago goes Lev, so the Ducks go Silayev. Demidov goes Columbus.

 

[DucksRoll]

Silayev for reference. Bob McKenzie has him ranked #3 as the top D in the draft.

This would be a solid top 4 Silayev and Zellweger would complement each other quite well.
Silayev - Zellweger
Mintyukov - Luneau

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Anton Silayev Scouting Report - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

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I don't see it. Verbeek was pretty clear on Ducks Stream that he didn't like Zelly on the right side. I don't think they're gonna bring in another LHD, especially when there are multiple RHD in the upper tier of the first round available.

 

[forever1922]

If he were LHD instead of RHD, would Levshunov still be most people's first choice for D? Or is he actually the best D prospect regardless of handedness?

He is the biggest outside of Silayev, and while he is a project 5 on 5 especially defensively, he is as good of an offensive defenseman as any in the draft.

Dickinson is similarly sized, less filled out, has a very projectable NHL profile and some like him best for those reasons. Basically swap Levshunov's handedness and defense vs offense, as they have opposite strengths and weaknesses. The one common factor is they're both great skaters.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I don't see it. Verbeek was pretty clear on Ducks Stream that he didn't like Zelly on the right side. I don't think they're gonna bring in another LHD, especially when there are multiple RHD in the upper tier of the first round available.

For what it's worth, Silayev plays the right side as well.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

If he were LHD instead of RHD, would Levshunov still be most people's first choice for D? Or is he actually the best D prospect regardless of handedness?

For me personally I think he’s the highest ceiling dmen in the draft.

Him being right handed is just a bonus

 

[robbieboy3686]

I have a pile of Googling and YouTube videos to watch before I can even vote. I'm excited though!

Same don’t know these players at all

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I think Chicago goes Lev, so the Ducks go Silayev. Demidov goes Columbus.

I was thinking Chicago would go Lev too, but I believe they will look to offense after some research.

In Chicago's top-10 scoring this year, they have two d-men (Seth Jones and Vlasic) and the rest are forwards.

Age breakdown of Chi forwards in top-10 scoring
18-24: 3 (Bedard 18, Reichel 21, Kurashev 24)
25 - 30: 3 (Anderson 25, Donato 27, Dickinson 28)
31 +: 2 (Johnson 33, Foligno 36)

That offense looks pathetic.

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Let's compare GF and GA between Chi and Ana.

2023-24

Ana: GF = 204, GA = 295​

Chi: GF = 179, GA = 290​

I'm surprised they allowed fewer GA than us!

Who Chi has in their system for defense

RD: Jones (29 yrs old, NHL), Rinzel (19, NCAA)
LD: Vlasic (22, NHL), Korchinski (19, NHL), Del Mastro (21, AHL)

Jones is signed through age 35. Vlasic played top pairing D with Jones and looks good as a shutdown type. Korchinski debuted as a 3rd pairing LD in the NHL. Del Mastro was known for defense when he was drafted in the 4th round, but his offense has sprung up since being drafted in the OHL and last season in the AHL.

If Chicago thinks it has found it's LD1 (Vlasic) and LD2 (Korchinski), then it just needs complements to those players for the right side. RD Rinzel had a great rookie season in the NCAA, with 28 points in 39 games for Minnesota. He was the highest scoring D-man for Minnesota last year. In the NCAA for defensemen scoring, Rinzel ranked tied for 6th overall in the league.

Chicago is armed with three picks in the top-34 selections with picks #2, #20, and #34. With a dire need for offense, Chicago may decide to double up on offense for picks #2 and #20. With pick #34, there are going to be a few RD's available.

RD's who might be available at pick 34
6'3 Elick, Shutdown type (WHL)
6'3 Badinka, two-way type (SHL and J20)
6'3 Emery, Shutdown type (US NTDP, NCAA bound)

Another thing to factor is Chicago is so bad that they will be a lottery team next year. The Athletic's (Wheeler) early look at the 2025 draft has two RD's in the top-8 and both in tier 2: #2 6'2 Hensler and #8 6'1 Trethewey (Aug birthday).

Strategically, Chicago is probably better off adding an elite forward in Demidov or Lindstrom. I'm hoping they draft either forward too b/c we could really use Lev as we're kinda stacked offensively, tbh.

 

[KickHisAssZegrass]

I was thinking Chicago would go Lev too, but I believe they will look to offense after some research.

In Chicago's top-10 scoring this year, they have two d-men (Seth Jones and Vlasic) and the rest are forwards.

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Age breakdown of Chi forwards in top-10 scoring
18-24: 3 (Bedard 18, Reichel 21, Kurashev 24)
25 - 30: 3 (Anderson 25, Donato 27, Dickinson 28)
31 +: 2 (Johnson 33, Foligno 36)

That offense looks pathetic.

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Let's compare GF and GA between Chi and Ana.

2023-24

Ana: GF = 204, GA = 295​

Chi: GF = 179, GA = 290​

I'm surprised they allowed fewer GA than us!

Who Chi has in their system for defense

RD: Jones (29 yrs old, NHL), Rinzel (19, NCAA)
LD: Vlasic (22, NHL), Korchinski (19, NHL), Del Mastro (21, AHL)

Jones is signed through age 35. Vlasic played top pairing D with Jones and looks good as a shutdown type. Korchinski debuted as a 3rd pairing LD in the NHL. Del Mastro was known for defense when he was drafted in the 4th round, but his offense has sprung up since being drafted in the OHL and last season in the AHL.

If Chicago thinks it has found it's LD1 (Vlasic) and LD2 (Korchinski), then it just needs complements to those players for the right side. RD Rinzel had a great rookie season in the NCAA, with 28 points in 39 games for Minnesota. He was the highest scoring D-man for Minnesota last year. In the NCAA for defensemen scoring, Rinzel ranked tied for 6th overall in the league.

Chicago is armed with three picks in the top-34 selections with picks #2, #20, and #34. With a dire need for offense, Chicago may decide to double up on offense for picks #2 and #20. With pick #34, there are going to be a few RD's available.

RD's who might be available at pick 34
6'3 Elick, Shutdown type (WHL)
6'3 Badinka, two-way type (SHL and J20)
6'3 Emery, Shutdown type (US NTDP, NCAA bound)

Another thing to factor is Chicago is so bad that they will be a lottery team next year. The Athletic's (Wheeler) early look at the 2025 draft has two RD's in the top-8 and both in tier 2: #2 6'2 Hensler and #8 6'1 Trethewey (Aug birthday).

Strategically, Chicago is probably better off adding an elite forward in Demidov or Lindstrom. I'm hoping they draft either forward too b/c we could really use Lev as we're kinda stacked offensively, tbh.

I think Hawks will go with Demidov... he's a game breaker and less risky than Michkov... only 1 year left on his contract and already playing nice with NHL teams.

If Hawks don't grab him I don't know if the Ducks will... but I hope they would. I really like Emery over the other dmen that might be available at Edm 1st.

 

[lwvs84]

I was thinking Chicago would go Lev too, but I believe they will look to offense after some research.

In Chicago's top-10 scoring this year, they have two d-men (Seth Jones and Vlasic) and the rest are forwards.

View attachment 867143

Age breakdown of Chi forwards in top-10 scoring
18-24: 3 (Bedard 18, Reichel 21, Kurashev 24)
25 - 30: 3 (Anderson 25, Donato 27, Dickinson 28)
31 +: 2 (Johnson 33, Foligno 36)

That offense looks pathetic.

===========

Let's compare GF and GA between Chi and Ana.

2023-24

Ana: GF = 204, GA = 295​

Chi: GF = 179, GA = 290​

I'm surprised they allowed fewer GA than us!

Who Chi has in their system for defense

RD: Jones (29 yrs old, NHL), Rinzel (19, NCAA)
LD: Vlasic (22, NHL), Korchinski (19, NHL), Del Mastro (21, AHL)

Jones is signed through age 35. Vlasic played top pairing D with Jones and looks good as a shutdown type. Korchinski debuted as a 3rd pairing LD in the NHL. Del Mastro was known for defense when he was drafted in the 4th round, but his offense has sprung up since being drafted in the OHL and last season in the AHL.

If Chicago thinks it has found it's LD1 (Vlasic) and LD2 (Korchinski), then it just needs complements to those players for the right side. RD Rinzel had a great rookie season in the NCAA, with 28 points in 39 games for Minnesota. He was the highest scoring D-man for Minnesota last year. In the NCAA for defensemen scoring, Rinzel ranked tied for 6th overall in the league.

Chicago is armed with three picks in the top-34 selections with picks #2, #20, and #34. With a dire need for offense, Chicago may decide to double up on offense for picks #2 and #20. With pick #34, there are going to be a few RD's available.

RD's who might be available at pick 34
6'3 Elick, Shutdown type (WHL)
6'3 Badinka, two-way type (SHL and J20)
6'3 Emery, Shutdown type (US NTDP, NCAA bound)

Another thing to factor is Chicago is so bad that they will be a lottery team next year. The Athletic's (Wheeler) early look at the 2025 draft has two RD's in the top-8 and both in tier 2: #2 6'2 Hensler and #8 6'1 Trethewey (Aug birthday).

Strategically, Chicago is probably better off adding an elite forward in Demidov or Lindstrom. I'm hoping they draft either forward too b/c we could really use Lev as we're kinda stacked offensively, tbh.

I'm hoping we get one of those big shut down RD... that's basically our biggest/only(?) weakness long term. 2 big, physical D in our first 3 picks. The need for a scoring forward is more short term. Long term, we need mostly 3rd wheel guys. If Verbeek can keep finding Vatrano types every few years, this team can be competitive for a long time with this core. Those players will also be cheaper to acquire (like when Rakell was moved).

 

[Hockey Duckie]

If he were LHD instead of RHD, would Levshunov still be most people's first choice for D? Or is he actually the best D prospect regardless of handedness?

Tier 1: high-end, two-way D
RD Lev has a high floor and a high ceiling who is learning how to play defense in NA for the past two seasons. He has shown tremendous progress from the USHL to the NCAA, leading his NCAA team in scoring (2nd in scoring by 1 point) and +/-. He's converted himself from an OFD to a two-way D. Standing at 6'2 and 209 lbs, he's built like Adonis. Lev just needs to work on the finer details while getting more reps in the NCAA for another season playing all three aspects of the game: ES, PP, and PK. (Please, Verbeek, let people who know how to develop players continue to develop players before you get your hands on them!!!)

LD Buium produced well in the NCAA, leading all U19 d-men in scoring and +/-. He's the 2nd best overall D, IMO. Although Zeev led in scoring and +/-, he's on a talented, stacked team to where he isn't the best scorer or only best +/- (tied with his older brother). Zeev is a high-end cog on his NCAA team, but Lev carried his NCAA team and that's part of the factor I have Lev higher than Zeev. Then there's the bio. Zee is 6'0 and 183 lbs. His brother is actually 6'3. There were some media reporting Zeev as 6'2, but when Zeev stands next to his brother, you know Zeev is much shorter than 6'2.

Tier 2: either a DFD or an OFD
LD Dickinson could be seen as a two-way D, but his offense doesn't look like it will transfer to the NHL play despite putting up 70 points in 68 regular season games in the OHL. He's on a stacked team with the London Knights where their highest scored put up 102 points. His defense looks like he can be a shutdown, top pairing D. At 6'3 and 205 lbs, he still has room to grow as he won't turn 18 years old until Jun 7th.

LD Silayev is a behemoth of a prospect who rises up through the skies at 6'7 and 207 lbs. That height + wingspan + hockey stick length means he can cover 1/8 of the ice by himself! He probably needs only three strides to go from Dzone to Ozone. He's a shutdown D like Dickinson, but lacks the offense that Dickinson brings (even though it's not high like Buium or Lev).

LD Parekh is a top-end OFD (offensive d-man). His defense needs help and that might take some time to develop. While doing some research on Dionicio (our prospect), Parekh's offensive production in the playoffs didn't mimic his high-end offensive production from the regular season. He missed four games in the playoffs, but I still was expecting equal high-end production. At 6'0 and 181 lbs, he's got good size.

RD Yakemchuk is a physical OFD towering at 6'3 and 190 lbs. He finished 2nd in scoring on his team with 71 points and notched 30 goals. The problem here is he doesn't like to play defense. He's got a -6 rating and the team high in +/- is a +29 rating. Sure, half the team is in the negative, but with his size, physicality, high scoring production, and this being his third season in the WHL, Yakemchuk shouldn't be in the negatives at all. Compound that with his propensity to incurring a lot of PIMs. His 120 PIM's is the 5th highest in the league. That's putting your team down a top-4D far too many times. I guess if he's a 3rd pairing guy who loves to rough things up and a PP specialist, then that's fine... except that might be too expensive to select in the top-10 or top-15.

 

[Rasp]

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

Buium with the first pick and then use our other first round pick for the best big bodied RHD available, or trade it for an NHL player that can fill the role.

What that kid is doing in the NCAA is really impressive, and he's a local kid from Laguna Niguel!