Around the NHL 11 - 2023/24

[tbcwpg]

Can’t argue with emotions can just make my a

First I want to point out, there is nothing logical about this, it’s all emotion driven, like people’s reason for wanting Edmonton to lose is because Gretzky and McD played there, so what?
Vancouver and New York at least get it, it doesn’t matter how many days.

Second, yes the number of kids needing to play is completely arbitrary. As is most of the argument.

Toronto, wpg, Edmonton bring up the idea of playing shimmy, that you can find kids just spending days at outdoor rinks. That the majority played. They may have never been good or mounted to much but they played.

Vs the criteria of they just have fans. They have professional leagu

A) I’m surprised Texas has so many rinks.

B) any reason that a person decides to cheer for a place is arbitrary not based on logic. Therefore, my answer is mostly emotional not logical.
A lot of people are cheering against Edmonton, because they got Gretzky and Mcdavid, so what?
A lot of people cheer for the jets because that’s where we are from. We are from Canada so taking the connection we have to the jets one step further we should root from any Canadian team.
All Canadian teams are underdogs. Have a smaller population, are not as rich have a harder time attracting fa then American teams.
Thinking that a team deserves a team because it’s cold and bitter, vs sunny, hot dessert is a silly argument, even though that’s the one I am making.
Growing up, peggers would play hockey whether we had the jets or not, I can’t imagine the same is true for Texans.

So what is your criteria? Any place big enough to have enough fans deserves a team?

My decision to cheer against the Oilers is entirely due to their fans and not the team. They take any chance to shit on Winnipeg they can get.

 

[Adam da bomb]

My decision to cheer against the Oilers is entirely due to their fans and not the team. They take any chance to shit on Winnipeg they can get.

Is that because the rivalry between Canadian teams is stronger because we are more passionate?
I totally hate the other Canadian teams, except when they are playing American teams because then it feels David vs Goliath most of the time. ( few American examples making this point look foolish).

 

[tbcwpg]

Is that because the rivalry between Canadian teams is stronger because we are more passionate?
I totally hate the other Canadian teams, except when they are playing American teams because then it feels David vs Goliath most of the time. ( few American examples making this point look foolish).

No they dump on the city itself. Only we're allowed to do that.

 

[Adam da bomb]

No they dump on the city itself. Only we're allowed to do that.

I’m not one to judge as I just dumped on how Dallas shouldn’t have a team, because it’s too hot there to justify hockey.

 

[Buffdog]

A) I’m surprised Texas has so many rinks.

B) any reason that a person decides to cheer for a place is arbitrary not based on logic. Therefore, my answer is mostly emotional not logical.
A lot of people are cheering against Edmonton, because they got Gretzky and Mcdavid, so what?
A lot of people cheer for the jets because that’s where we are from. We are from Canada so taking the connection we have to the jets one step further we should root from any Canadian team.
All Canadian teams are underdogs. Have a smaller population, are not as rich have a harder time attracting fa then American teams.
Thinking that a team deserves a team because it’s cold and bitter, vs sunny, hot dessert is a silly argument, even though that’s the one I am making.
Growing up, peggers would play hockey whether we had the jets or not, I can’t imagine the same is true for Texans.

So what is your criteria? Any place big enough to have enough fans deserves a team?

Another well thought out, reasonable and logical post. Interestingly, I believe that I heard somewhere (don't take it as truth) that there are actually more minor hockey players in the states now than in Canada due to declining numbers up here and just their 10X population advantage...

That said, f*** Edmonton

 

[10Ducky10]

Even if its 200% more, thats only 2 playoff wins totes.

Wouldn't it be 2 more wins for a total of 3?

 

[macmaroon]

Have said this in past years and will say again the only Canadian team that I want to win the SC is the Jets

 

[kanadalainen]

That said, f*** Edmonton

Hm... T-shirt material.

 

[UFO]

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Is that the cooler version of the dad in american pie?

 

[Jets 31]

I guess the Dude is n an American. He is in the movies.

That was just for the movie, the Dude is a born and raised Winnipeg'er .

 

[kanadalainen]

Wouldn't it be 2 more wins for a total of 3?

I should have defined a 100% effort as a linear relationship eg, 1 win (1.000), matching this years mightiness.

Let 1.000 = one win.
And so, if 2 x 1.000 = two wins, or 2.000, then:

I would suggest that 100% of 1 win is one win... and so, by extension, 200% of 1 win is two wins?

Lets inject some ethanol into the equation. If my grandmother drank 200% of my solitary can of beer, then she would have consumed roughly 2 beers. Not only that, but I'd be required to drive her back to her apartment on Henderson.



Back to serious hockey discussion:

eg, if the Jets gave 100% effort (of what they garnered this year) next year, we could look forward to winning the first game, and then getting swept 4 games straight.

If *somehow* they could redouble their efforts, and slam down a 200% effort, then I would be looking for a 4 games to 2 game drubbing in the first round (by our faceless nameless adversary).

Now, even if we did manage 3 games won (a mighty coelacanth-friendly 300% effort), then we'd still lose in the first round.

Conclusion: 200% or even a 300% (linear) effort increase by the Jets still results in a series loss. What we need is a 400% linear elevation of luck and skill for a playoff win.*

* assuming Helly's play does not vary in the playoffs from year to year.

 

[Jet]

I wonder if there is any chance Tampa would trade Cernak..

A) I’m surprised Texas has so many rinks.

B) any reason that a person decides to cheer for a place is arbitrary not based on logic. Therefore, my answer is mostly emotional not logical.
A lot of people are cheering against Edmonton, because they got Gretzky and Mcdavid, so what?
A lot of people cheer for the jets because that’s where we are from. We are from Canada so taking the connection we have to the jets one step further we should root from any Canadian team.
All Canadian teams are underdogs. Have a smaller population, are not as rich have a harder time attracting fa then American teams.
Thinking that a team deserves a team because it’s cold and bitter, vs sunny, hot dessert is a silly argument, even though that’s the one I am making.
Growing up, peggers would play hockey whether we had the jets or not, I can’t imagine the same is true for Texans.

So what is your criteria? Any place big enough to have enough fans deserves a team?

I've never gotten the argument that because a place didn't organically have hockey that it's not a valid market.

Bad news bears, the US has more players in their system than Canada does for the first time and that will never go back. Registrations are declining in Canada and only surging in the US. Won't be long until they dominate the makeup of nhl rosters.

Non traditional markets like Tampa and Dallas have very strong amateur player pools and other marks are following suit.

People might as well accept it.

 

[WolfHouse]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1792965189471777117

Thank God we didn't sign trotz as our gm/coach

 

[Adam da bomb]

I've never gotten the argument that because a place didn't organically have hockey that it's not a valid market.

Bad news bears, the US has more players in their system than Canada does for the first time and that will never go back. Registrations are declining in Canada and only surfing in the US. Went be long until they dominate the makeup of nhl rosters.

Noon traditional markets like Tampa and Dallas have very strong amateur player pools and other marks are following suit.

People might as well accept it.

How about no! I’m sick of America dominating everything.

A feeling of superiority is the last refuge.

 

[Thechozen1]

How about no! I’m sick of America dominating everything.

A feeling of superiority is the last refuge.

Most winning teams have Canadian players playing an integral part of their championship.

 

[Gm0ney]

Thank God we didn't sign trotz as our gm/coach

Clearing space for Marner, I hear!

 

[Duke749]

How about no! I’m sick of America dominating everything.

A feeling of superiority is the last refuge.

From my understanding, Canada’s economy is far worst then America’s. Feel like these things are making a big difference.

 

[GJF]

How about no! I’m sick of America dominating everything.

A feeling of superiority is the last refuge.

You still have curling!

 

[ps241]

My decision to cheer against the Oilers is entirely due to their fans and not the team. They take any chance to shit on Winnipeg they can get.

No they dump on the city itself. Only we're allowed to do that.

Which is hilarious considering they live in Edmonton. To have so little self awareness must be blissful.

 

[The Blue Baron]

I hope Edmonton wins. A Canadian team needs to win he cup. This is ridiculous since 1993.

 

[Stumbledore]

You still have curling!

I thought Sweden took the championship last month, no?

 

[GJF]

How wouId I know? Nobody cares about curling

 

[buggs]

A) I’m surprised Texas has so many rinks.

B) any reason that a person decides to cheer for a place is arbitrary not based on logic. Therefore, my answer is mostly emotional not logical.
A lot of people are cheering against Edmonton, because they got Gretzky and Mcdavid, so what?
A lot of people cheer for the jets because that’s where we are from. We are from Canada so taking the connection we have to the jets one step further we should root from any Canadian team.
All Canadian teams are underdogs. Have a smaller population, are not as rich have a harder time attracting fa then American teams.
Thinking that a team deserves a team because it’s cold and bitter, vs sunny, hot dessert is a silly argument, even though that’s the one I am making.
Growing up, peggers would play hockey whether we had the jets or not, I can’t imagine the same is true for Texans.

So what is your criteria? Any place big enough to have enough fans deserves a team?

Not to drag this down the drain again but I appreciate your honest answer.

With respect to your question at the end of the post I guess my criteria is a team should be placed in a location that has sufficient population where the league is confident that the ownership will do their best to ensure stable management dedicated to the success of the franchise.

Strong support from the fan base is also critical and I think Dallas, Carolina and Nashville, as examples, all amply demonstrate that, in what may be considered non-traditional hockey markets. I don't know, but I think that the support for Tampa Bay has always been rather good as well.

But this statement (mine) does raise a fascinating question regarding Winnipeg's future. My latest, ongoing dealings with TNSE are arguably no better than they were when we first got tickets in 2011 (yeah you have a choice, you can take those seats or we'll give them to someone else). TNSE is burning through nearly everyone with actual disposable income by continuing to treat them as easily replaceable. They are saying the right things publicly but they haven't changed a damn thing at the STH-communication level. The biggest driver of that is that they burn through STH-reps, our only avenue for communication so bloody quickly. The STH rep, the primary and frankly only point of contact for a STH is an entry level position. I'm on my 4th in the last 12 month span. They don't seem to pass any information about the history of the seats, STH or previous communications onto the new people at all. My litany of complaints about this organization sadly just continues to grow with each passing day. As just a fan, I think I'd enjoy the organization that much more.

 

[ps241]

I am looking forward to New York v Florida. I will tune in tonight to see if this series is as good as I think it might be.

 

[PhilJets]

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