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Here’s my spreadsheet for upcoming UFAs, each team’s cap situation, and a trade tracker. I update the spreadsheet daily. I use CapFriendly to create this list and AFP Analytics for the contract projections.

Edit: Spreadsheet has been updated with AFP's latest projections and I added a new section for RFAs.

Spoiler: UFAs By Position

Top-6 Forwards
Sam Reinhart	RW	28	8y/10.25m
Jake Guentzel	W	29	6y/7.94m
Steven Stamkos	LW/C	34	3y/6.30m
Jonathan Marchessault	W	33	3y/6.25m
Joe Pavelski	RW	39	1y/3.94m
Matt Duchene	RW/C	33	3y/6.46m
Sean Monahan	FW	29	3y/2.87m
Tyler Toffoli	W	32	5y/6.53m
Jonathan Drouin	W	29	4y/4.46m
Teuvo Teravainen	W	29	5y/6.13m
Vladimir Tarasenko	RW	32	3y/5.64m
Adam Henrique	LW/C	34	2y/4.60m
Chandler Stephenson	C/LW	30	5y/5.77m
Max Domi	C/RW	29	3y/4.17m
Patrick Kane	RW	35	2y/5.51m
Elias Lindholm	C/RW	29	7y/8.04m
Anthony Mantha	W	29	3y/4.40m
Daniel Sprong	W	27	3y/3.89m
Jake DeBrusk	W	27	5y/5.92m
David Perron	W	36	2y/2.80m
Tyler Bertuzzi	W	29	5y/6.00m
Anthony Duclair	W	28	3y/3.22m
Jason Zucker	W	32	3y/5.46m
Jack Roslovic	C/RW	27	3y/3.11m
Max Pacioretty	LW	35
Alexander Barabanov	W	30	3y/3.03m

Top-4 Defecemen
Shayne Gostisbehere	LD/RD	31	3y/4.38m
Brady Skjei	LD	30	6y/7.39m
Noah Hanifin	LD	27	7y/7.69m
Brandon Montour	RD	30	7y/8.71m
Oliver Ekman-Larsson	LD	32	3y/3.67m
Dylan DeMelo	RD	31	4y/5.07m
Sean Walker	LD/RD	29	4y/4.87m
Matt Roy	RD	29	4y/5.58m
TJ Brodie	LD/RD	34	3y/4.91m
Brenden Dillon	LD	33	2y/3.91m
Alexandre Carrier	RD	27	3y/3.57m
Nikita Zadorov	LD/RD	29	4y/5.10m
Chris Tanev	RD	34	3y/4.68m
Brett Pesce	RD	29	6y/6.72m
Matt Grzelcyk	LD	30	3y/4.07m
Oliver Kylington	LD/RD	27

Bottom-6 Forwards
James van Riemsdyk	W	35	1y/1.50m
Warren Foegele	W	28	4y/3.58m
Stefan Noesen	W	31	2y/3.23m
Danton Heinen	W	28
Tyler Johnson	FW	33
Alexander Wennberg	C	29	4y/4.21m
Jordan Martinook	W	31	2y/2.79m
Dakota Joshua	LW	28	3y/3.00m
Michael Amadio	W	28
Teddy Blueger	C/LW	29	2y/2.56m
Sam Lafferty	FW	29	2y/1.72m
Kiefer Sherwood	W	29
Mike Hoffman	LW	34	1y/1.86m
Tomas Tatar	W	33	1y/2.21m
Kyle Okposo	RW	36	1y/1.96m
Kasperi Kapanen	RW	27
Andrew Cogliano	LW	37
Jakob Silfverberg	W	33	2y/2.78m
Cal Clutterbuck	RW	36
Corey Perry	RW	39
Patrick Maroon	W	36
Yakov Trenin	LW/C	27	3y/3.33m
Dominik Kubalik	W	28	2y/1.34m
Anthony Beauvillier	W	27
Sam Carrick	C/RW	32
Tanner Pearson	LW	31
Zemgus Girgensons	LW/C	30	2y/1.74m
Colin Blackwell	C/RW	31
Brandon Duhaime	W	27
Nick Cousins	LW/C	30
Connor Brown	W	30
Joel Kiviranta	W	28
William Carrier	LW	29	3y/2.68m
Tyler Motte	W	29	3y/2.55m
Samuel Blais	W	28	1y/0.94m
Tyson Jost	C	26

Bottom-Pairing Defencemen
Erik Gustafsson	LD	32	3y/4.99m
Tyler Myers	RD	34	2y/2.67m
Justin Schultz	RD	33	2y/3.81m
Kevin Shattenkirk	RD	35	1y/1.37m
Jalen Chatfield	RD	28	3y/2.77m
Mike Reilly	LD	30	1y/1.24m
Dmitry Kulikov	LD/RD	33
Alec Martinez	LD	36	1y/1.7m
Tyson Barrie	RD	32	2y/3.72m
Jani Hakanpaa	RD	32	2y/2.38m
Vincent Desharnais	RD	28	2y/1.41m
Ian Cole	LD/RD	35	2y/3.09m
Matt Dumba	RD	29	3y/3.73m
Colin Miller	RD	31
Mark Giordano	LD	40	1y/3.11m
Marco Scandella	LD	34
Calvin De Haan	LD/RD	33
Josh Brown	RD	30
Ilya Lyubushkin	RD	30	1y/1.31m
Joel Edmundson	LD/RD	31
Troy Stecher	RD	30
Derek Forbort	LD	32
Erik Johnson	RD	36	1y/1.13m

Forward Depth
Christian Fischer	W	27
Craig Smith	RW	34
Victor Olofsson	W	28
Trevor Lewis	RW/C	37
Justin Bailey	RW	29
Kevin Stenlund	C/RW	27
Jeff Carter	RW/C	39
Ryan Carpenter	RW/C	33
Nicolas Aube-Kubel	RW	28	2y/1.53m
AJ Greer	W	27
Liam O'Brien	W	29
Chris Tierney	C	30
Mattias Janmark	W	31
Sam Gagner	RW/C	34
Brendan Smith	LD/RD	35
Eric Robinson	LW	29
Zach Parise	LW	39
Kevin Labanc	W	28	2y/1.94m
Fredrik Olofsson	C/LW	28
Alex Barre-Boulet	W	27
Matt Martin	W	35
Radim Zohorna	W	28
Pierre-Edouard Bellemare	C/LW	39
Tyler Pitlick	RW	32
Austin Watson	W	32
Tomas Nosek	LW/C	31
Jansen Harkins	LW	27
Rourke Chartier	C	28
Steven Lorentz	FW	28

Defensive Depth
Jack Johnson	LD	37
Vincent Desharnais	RD	28	2y/1.41m
Anthony Deangelo	RD	28	2y/1.80m
Jarred Tinordi	LD	32
Sebastian Aho	LD	28
Dakota Mermis	LD/RD	30
Jacob MacDonald	LD/RD	31
Dennis Gilbert	LD	27
Nikita Zaitsev	RD	32
Nick DeSimone	RD	29
Travis Dermott	LD/RD	27
Caleb Jones	LD/RD	27
Chad Ruhwedel	RD	34
William Lageson	LD/RD	28

Goaltenders
Cam Talbot	G	36	1y/1.89m
Ilya Samsonov	G	27	2y/3.26m
Alex Nedeljkovic	G	28	2y/2.00m
Kaapo Kahkonen	G	27	2y/2.93m
Scott Wedgewood	G	31	2y/1.57m
Casey DeSmith	G	32	1y/2.02m
Anthony Stolarz	G	30	2y/1.91m
James Reimar	G	36
Antti Raanta	G	35	1y/1.31m
David Rittich	G	31
Kevin Lankinen	G	29	1y/1.58m
Laurent Brossoit	G	31	2y/1.95m
Calvin Pickard	G	32
Martin Jones	G	34

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[arttk]

The money isn't going to work to sign everyone, not even close. A couple are going to have to go.

yeah and i think that's fine.

 

[JAK]

Here's how we can fit everyone.

Pettersson out entire season due to ACL and MCL tears from post all star break.
Boeser out entire season dealing with blood clot.

LTIR Vegas mode.

 

[Hodgy]

Pretty sure Joshua is playing hurt. He took a big shot block in game 2 or 3 against Nashville and hasn't looked the same since.

He might be. But keep in mind that most players are playing hurt to some extent during the playoffs, and it’s a bit of a dangerous game excuse some players for their play but not others.

 

[TruKnyte]

He might be. But keep in mind that most players are playing hurt to some extent during the playoffs, and it’s a bit of a dangerous game excuse some players for their play but not others.

I think once the season is over we'll get a list of what these guys have been playing with. Doesn't excuse all of their performances, but definitely provides some context.

 

[Hodgy]

I think once the season is over we'll get a list of what these guys have been playing with. Doesn't excuse all of their performances, but definitely provides some context.

Ya, but not everything is always disclosed. Like, Henrik Sedin played through incredibly painful back issues and I dint recall hearing much about it at the time. But if you listen to Bieksa talk about it now the injury was pretty debilitating.

There is also the fact that been able to play well through an injury is also important.

Not saying injuries are not relevant. But they seem to be more of a footnote when it’s a good playing playing well through the injury.

 

[vancityluongo]

I want him back too but let's be honest. 6x6 has a high chance of being the next Gudbranson. I don't like that risk. Would much rather overpay Lindholm than Zaddy.

zadorov is turning into a folk hero (after i type this i'm going to hop onto a betting app to see what the odds are for an anytime goal from him tonight)... but he really is not a $6m defenseman.

anything more than $20m on this next contract or more than 3 years is very risky. and it sounds like that's about half of what he's asking for.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

I want him back too but let's be honest. 6x6 has a high chance of being the next Gudbranson. I don't like that risk. Would much rather overpay Lindholm than Zaddy.

That has Myers written all over it. If Zadorov wants to stay, he needs to give somewhere, be it term or dollar. We can't make the Benning mistake of just giving out everything and hoping for the best.

 

[Jerry the great]

zadorov is turning into a folk hero (after i type this i'm going to hop onto a betting app to see what the odds are for an anytime goal from him tonight)... but he really is not a $6m defenseman.

anything more than $20m on this next contract or more than 3 years is very risky. and it sounds like that's about half of what he's asking for.

Any long term signing is risky, but what on earth makes you think more than 3 years is "very risky" for this guy? he's almost 6 months younger than Elia Lindholm and people are tripping over themselves to sign him for 7 or 8 years at a materially higher cap hit. I threw out the Willie Mitchell comp earlier (partly to illustrate % of cap), but Zadorov is a lot bigger, tougher, more durable and has way better offensive skills. Mitchell, despite the concussion history, won a cup with LA at 35.

Zadorov is an old school Alpha predator. He hits like a train, is solid defensively and chips in at a top 4 clip at ES. I think he'll get close $5mm/5+ years and he's worth that IMO as he's capable of anchoring a 2nd pairing and eating a big chunk of PK minutes. The idea that he's going to suddenly turn into a pumpkin in three years is based in nothing resembling reality IMO.

 

[Jerry the great]

I want him back too but let's be honest. 6x6 has a high chance of being the next Gudbranson. I don't like that risk. Would much rather overpay Lindholm than Zaddy.

It kind of hilarious you bring up Gudbranson. He's had exactly one full season that he didn't look like absolute garbage....hell he was even a + player and chipped in offensively. His d-partner that season was Zadorov. Dudbranson (totally intended), managed to get himself and LTD in Columbus the following year....where he's predictably returned to playing like garbage. In conclusion, not only is Zadorov not going to end up like Gudbranson, for an entire season, he made Gurbranson look like he wasn't Gudbranson. He's the anti Gurbranson.

 

[Canucks LB]

I am ready to be in here quite a bit after this game, get ready lol

 

[TruGr1t]

I will just say it, pawn Pettersson's performance off as some type of injury and get rid of this guy. There have been far too many extended stretches of give-no-f***s, pouty hockey since he's been here. Just shocking to see a top 10 player turn into a total zero on multiple occasions.

 

[Vector]

I am ready to be in here quite a bit after this game, get ready lol

AFP released their updated contract projections today. I have a lot of work updating my spreadsheets.

 

[Canucks LB]

f*** the off-season let’s win

 

[iFan]

now they have to try and make us better with a tighter cap and losing key players

 

[Donuts]

OUT:
Lafferty
Cole
DeSmith- its just Silovs is here to stay
Mik- trade him somehow


Hronek - less than 5m or trade him for assets

Re-sign: Zadorov

Myers - on the fence, check Free agency for better options first
Lindholm - if its reasonable cap hit then bring him back

EP - making too much for what he brought in the playoffs. If there's good deal available, canucks should be open to trading him

- Would like canucks to offer a package if B tkachuk is available.

 

[Slapshot_11]

Myers 2m or f*** off
Hronek 5m or f*** off
Trade mik
Try and get zad and lindholm but probably can't because of cap

 

[TruGr1t]

now they have to try and make us better with a tighter cap and losing key players

Will be borderline impossible unless a prospect pops off. They simply don’t have enough cap space to bring this group back and improve it in any meaningful way. Will require extensive surgery to the core roster and then all bets are off since you have no clue what a team with extensive renovations will even look like.

 

[Canucks LB]

Give me a few hours to think about exactly how I plan to do this

 

[arttk]

Will be borderline impossible unless a prospect pops off. They simply don’t have enough cap space to bring this group back and improve it in any meaningful way. Will require extensive surgery to the core roster and then all bets are off since you have no clue what a team with extensive renovations will even look like.

We shouldn’t try to bring the group back. Spend money on true talent, let 4th line be kid line, fill out roster with vets that have speed that can forecheck hard.

 

[TruGr1t]

We shouldn’t try to bring the group back. Spend money on true talent, let 4th line be kid line, fill out roster with vets that have speed that can forecheck hard.

You'll have no idea how that will translate on the ice. Usually, teams in this position, build on something. Turning the group over outside of like 5 guys means you are just hoping it works out, you have no guarantee Tocchet will mesh with new guys, no guarantee on line chemistry, almost fully turning over the blue line. Like, do you think this has a high probability of success? If they could build on this team in some way I'd be far more optimistic.

 

[rypper]

Allvin is sharpening his scalpel to begin surgery. We know they aren't afraid to make big moves. It'll be an interesting off season.

 

[credulous]

i don't think next year is that bleak. the currently signed group (i'm omitting guys who can be buried with little consequence like pdg and juulsen) is:

pettersson (11.6)
miller (8)
hughes (7.85)
boeser (6.65)
demko (5)
garland (4.95)
mikheyev (4.75)
soucy (3.25)
the ghost of oel (2.35)
suter (1.6)
hoglander (1.1)

that's ~57m with the cap probably being ~88m. that's 31m to add 13 players and there's probably 3-5 guys already signed you can slot in at or around league min if you want (silovs, pdg, aman, bains, etc)

obviously moving mikheyev would be ideal and there's some work to do to either move hronek or get his number down to something reasonable but even if they're stuck with mikheyev and hronek comes in with an arb award around 7.5m that's still 23m to spend. they can get a top 6 winger or two and a couple decent dmen for that easy. they can probably fit in lindholm too if you think it's worth it at whatever he ends up getting

the biggest problem is that they have a ton of work to do to find some *cheap* talent to fill out the roster. they gotta do better than blueger, lafferty, myers, cole, etc

(edit: the real biggest problem is how thin the farm looks. i'm not a raty believer and guys like sasson, mueller, bains, felton, mcward don't really project as much more than depth. lots of hopes and dreams on lekkerimaki and willander's shoulders)

 

[Luck 6]

We shouldn’t try to bring the group back. Spend money on true talent, let 4th line be kid line, fill out roster with vets that have speed that can forecheck hard.

That’s an awful idea.

There’s no issue with bringing the group back, or at least the portions of it that work. We need to build on this team. And, a kid line? That’s not what I want to see for my 4th line at all.

 

[Vector]

Give me a few hours to think about exactly how I plan to do this

I’ll try to update the spreadsheet before the night is over.

 

[crazychimp]

That OEL contract is the one thing I fear the most.