by exemple agaist Boston
nylander played 68% against marchand of pasta line
marner is at 84% and matthews at 64%
If marner is not there anymore to take those matchup, what will happen? Its matthews and nylander would will need to take it.
the #1 reason why toronto beat tampa last year is marner who played 78 of time vs tampa top 6 and completly shutdown by didn't allowed a single 5v5 goal to tampa top 6 vs nylander who played 67% of time against tampa top 6 and been completly dominated.
If you raising timr matthews and nylander playing against top 6, do you think they will have a better impact both offensively and defensively than right now?
You can post all the numbers you like, nothing's going to convince me that Marner hasn't been a massive disappointment for us in the playoffs overall. And I'm pretty sure Matthews and Nylander have been playing against top 6 opposition, not sure what else to way there.
I still feel that Kessel tweeting that there is nothing better than night fishing while the playoffs were still going was one of the more tone deaf things Ive seen from a leaf player. Dont get me wrong, Marner lives in la la land and does not get it, or doesnt care, both arent a great look in this market.
I missed that Kessel tweet (or maybe just forgot about it), that's hilarious. Not a great look for sure but as long as you still play the game the way you're supposed, that's what really matters. Kessel I don't think let things get to him the way Marner does though. He'll just eat another hot dog and not worry about what people think while Marner on the other hand, it feels like his confidence in terms of playoff hockey is just gone.
I appreciate Matthews goal scoring prowess but to suggest he is a physical gritty player is a bit of a stretch. He is a big body who every now and then pushes back but it is not his natural state and its pretty obvious he wants no part of it. Tkachuk he is not. I still cant get his smirking and going limp out of my mind. Even this year in the bruins series he grabbed a player after the whistle which grabbed my attention but as soon as another player grabbed him, he looked at him let go and looked down at the ice. Can he become a more intense physical player....I wouldnt bet on it tbh.
Yup, agree with all this. He's still a great player though, too bad he wasn't healthy as he was such a monster in game 2. Hopefully we'll see more perdormances like that from him in the future.
The gamble is keeping him for this contract season and see how he plays in the playoffs for Berube. Not panic dumping him now for sub par assets because you don't like his interactions with the media and he's going to be the same player forever.
That's not a given. I don't deal in absolutes. I believe everyone deserves more chances this is Leafs Nation not Nazi Germany.
Maybe you can re sign Marner to a reasonable 4 year deal so he's a serious asset for us not a dump that we get no value for.
How many more chances would you give him? And what do you think would be a reasonable 4 year deal for Marner?
I wasn't comparing them I was saying how opposite the situation is. Marner doesn't have to be dealt because he has spoken out in the media and it's not a given he is the same player forever. That's just typical over reacting from Leafs fans. Let him play out his contract year and see what happens , trading him now is foolish.
I think the opposite is true - not trading him now would be foolish. Then you either let him walk for nothing a year from now or even worse, extend him again, two really bad options.