Value of: Filip Hronek

[BigTruzz]

He is stuck on 8mil per. We won't pay him more than Hughes.

What's your teams best offer?

Edit: here's the quote

Dhaliwal: Last I heard the ask by Hronek is not going down. It's strong at 8 mill per season.

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[Pinkfloyd]

I'd offer Burroughs, Benning, or Rutta and the New Jersey 2nd if he's willing to sign here and depending on the term. He may be asking 8 mil of Vancouver but might not ask that of another team.

 

[Drew Doubty]

I'd offer Burroughs, Benning, or Rutta and the New Jersey 2nd if he's willing to sign here and depending on the term. He may be asking 8 mil of Vancouver but might not ask that of another team.

You're thinking he's willing to take less for San Jose?

 

[Pinkfloyd]

You're thinking he's willing to take less for San Jose?

Probably not but it's possible. Depends on what he's looking for. The Sharks need dramatic upgrades to their right side and Hronek is a guy that's probably worth looking into if he has interest in playing there.

 

[Bond]

His ask for 8 sure brings down his value. I don't think he is better than Hanifin

 

[ellusive]

He disappeared in the playoffs..

 

[Dotter]

This is why Yzerman was eager to move on from him. He is pricing himself out of teams trying to be competitive.

 

[Luck 6]

I thought the Hanifin contract was actually a pretty good comparable. Key differences are as follows:

1. Hronek plays the more coveted side on the blueline (RHD).
2. Hronek is a year younger (almost).
3. Hronek still has to buy one more year of RFA status where as Hanifin did not.
4. Hronek isn't quite as good in my opinion, but they are close.
5. Hanifin didn't get the pleasure of playing with Hughes all season.

With all that in mind, Hronek should be worth about the same on an 8 year deal. If Hronek doesn't see this, I would probably play a bit of hard ball with him.

I wouldn't trade him for less than what we paid... At the end of the day, he's still a good RHD, many teams would jump at the chance of acquiring him.

 

[Johnsie19]

He disappeared in the playoffs..

He's been injured the entire second half of the season apparently. Before his goal last night he hadn't taken a slap shot in months. And that was a huge weapon of his.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Eh I’d rather just sign him at his 1 year qualifying offer and trade him at the deadline depending on how the season goes. The Canucks aren’t currently in a position where they absolutely have to either trade him or sign him long term. He’s not a player that should be the 3rd or 4th highest paid player on the team, otherwise our future will look bleak.

 

[Johnsie19]

Unfortunately people on here aren't going to be able to assess Hronek's value very well for a few reasons.
1. He had an unproductive 2nd half including playoffs (according to most that'll make him entirely useless)
2. He is available (maybe). Which means there must be some reason why you want to get rid of this player. Again makes him worthless on here.
3. His contract is too much. Half the people on HF probably aren't aware the cap will be going up significantly.

The reality is he's a top pairing RD at 26 yrs of age, fresh off a 50 point season. Was it all because of Hughes? some of it sure but he wasn't on the 1st pp for 90% of the yr and was injured the 2nd half. He is worth a lot. He was also on pace for 50 last yr in Detroit too. I think he is better than Hanifin personally just due to what he can do offensively.

 

[Go Wings]

Unfortunately people on here aren't going to be able to assess Hronek's value very well for a few reasons.
1. He had an unproductive 2nd half including playoffs (according to most that'll make him entirely useless)
2. He is available (maybe). Which means there must be some reason why you want to get rid of this player. Again makes him worthless on here.
3. His contract is too much. Half the people on HF probably aren't aware the cap will be going up significantly.

The reality is he's a top pairing RD at 26 yrs of age, fresh off a 50 point season. Was it all because of Hughes? some of it sure but he wasn't on the 1st pp for 90% of the yr and was injured the 2nd half. He is worth a lot. He was also on pace for 50 last yr in Detroit too. I think he is better than Hanifin personally just due to what he can do offensively.

This is what people don't understand he isn't a top pairing Dmen he is a really good number 3 that wants to get paid like a top pairing Dmen. Sure he looks like a top pairing Dmen for half a season like he did in Detroit as well. Then that 2nd half happens (we Wings fans tried to tell Van fans and were laughed at) and you see what he really is.

And no he's not better than Hanifin.

 

[Johnsie19]

This is what people don't understand he isn't a top pairing Dmen he is a really good number 3 that wants to get paid like a top pairing Dmen. Sure he looks like a top pairing Dmen for half a season like he did in Detroit as well. Then that 2nd half happens (we Wings fans tried to tell Van fans and were laughed at) and you see what he really is.

And no he's not better than Hanifin.

So what is your contention? That he always has a good first half of the yr and bad 2nd half?

He's undoubtedly a top 64 dman in the league. Which would make him top pair. The news in Vancouver is he has been playing through injury for the 2nd half of the season. Curious to hear how that relate to what you are suggestion but fire away.

 

[Leafshater67]

He probably should have showed up in the playoffs if he wants 8 million. 6.5-7 would be the most I’d pay for him.

He found himself in a really favorable situation with a partner that worked for him. He should take a minor hometown discount and stick with the Canucks.

 

[Cancuks]

I'd offer Burroughs, Benning, or Rutta and the New Jersey 2nd if he's willing to sign here and depending on the term. He may be asking 8 mil of Vancouver but might not ask that of another team.

That's terrible value. Burroughs, Benning and Rutta are cap dumps.

 

[Roshi]

interested what the price would look like for Caps. We need Carlson replacement in a 2 year window.

Is Jensen attracting piece for Canucks, or TvR as a balancing guy? 2nd + what else?

If its 1st +, propably the timing isnt right.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

That's terrible value. Burroughs, Benning and Rutta are cap dumps.

It is but Hronek isn’t a player I’m giving good value for with his contract demands relative to his play.

 

[Go Wings]

So what is your contention? That he always has a good first half of the yr and bad 2nd half?

He's undoubtedly a top 64 dman in the league. Which would make him top pair. The news in Vancouver is he has been playing through injury for the 2nd half of the season. Curious to hear how that relate to what you are suggestion but fire away.

The last 2 years that is exactly what happened. I like Hronek and didn't want Detroit to trade him. But it's clear why Yzerman did, he wants a lot more money then he is worth and isn't consistent throughout the year.

 

[TGWL]

Eh I’d rather just sign him at his 1 year qualifying offer and trade him at the deadline depending on how the season goes. The Canucks aren’t currently in a position where they absolutely have to either trade him or sign him long term. He’s not a player that should be the 3rd or 4th highest paid player on the team, otherwise our future will look bleak.

Qualifying him doesn't mean you're going to get him at cap hit. He'll likely reject and go to arbitration. So I guess it becomes "being ok to pay him for 1 year vs signing him for a long term contract." If you can replace him you're probably better off trading him now than the deadline. If you can't replace him, I don't think you have a choice but to roll the dice like you said.

 

[Canovin]

If the only overpaid player on your team is Hronek at 8M. It isn't so bad

 

[Killer Orcas]

It is but Hronek isn’t a player I’m giving good value for with his contract demands relative to his play.

We'd rather just keep him for the year and let him walk then accept that. However if at deadline we were to move him he'd definitely get something of value then that offer.

 

[Warh1ppy]

Offer him term at $7.25 million knowing that the first 2-3 years will be overpaid until the cap increases and subsequent signings afterwards make the contract look good.

Or.

Qualify him at the $7.4 million for a single year his first half stats indicate he should get based on league averages and then trade him to whatever team would be willing to pay him the 8 million he seems to think he'd be worth as a passenger and recoup the asset via youth/picks for him.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

We'd rather just keep him for the year and let him walk then accept that. However if at deadline we were to move him he'd definitely get something of value then that offer.

He probably would. The Sharks need to get guys on the cheap. Would the cost of Hronek go down if a team was willing to take someone like Mikheyev or Garland off your hands?

 

[Warh1ppy]

He probably would. The Sharks need to get guys on the cheap. Would the cost of Hronek go down if a team was willing to take someone like Mikheyev or Garland off your hands?

I'd suggest Garland, no. That team after his playoffs will want to keep him.

$5 million, 50 points and a playoff performer on the positive side of almost every 5v5 metric.

Mikheyev though? Yikes. 5 million for 2 more years. That's a contract that you pay to get rid of for sure

 

[Rowlet]

He probably would. The Sharks need to get guys on the cheap. Would the cost of Hronek go down if a team was willing to take someone like Mikheyev or Garland off your hands?

Garland is extremely important to the team, Mikheyev's "prime" get rid of him level is right now, by the time Hronek is a UFA, Mikheyev will only have one year left on his deal, so I don't know if the value changes that much.