le_sean
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Pettersson’s playoffs should show people what lighter talented players can and cannot do in the postseason. Woof he was bad.
Dude, he's 6th in goals for dmen in the regular season this year.Also because Hughes can't score a goal, ever.
I mean it could very well be a one time thing, he was sensational in his first playoffs. Big gritty Matthew Tkachuk was dog shit for the Flames in the playoffs and look at him with the Panthers. If it's a pattern with Pettersson in the future, then I'd agree.Pettersson’s playoffs should show people what lighter talented players can and cannot do in the postseason. Woof he was bad.
Rational, calm, evidence-based analysis is not welcomed!Dude, he's 6th in goals for dmen in the regular season this year.
I mean it could very well be a one time thing, he was sensational in his first playoffs. Big gritty Matthew Tkachuk was dog shit for the Flames in the playoffs and look at him with the Panthers. If it's a pattern with Pettersson in the future, then I'd agree.
While I do think the size concern is definitely amplified in the playoffs, I'm not sure why Marner is always used as an example but Matthews who's a big dude isn't. It really does depend how competitive the player is. Even though he's stocky for his size, Marchessault is still a light guy compared to most NHLers but he's an absolute bull dog who's been money in the playoffs. Pettersson's been really bad since his extension, it's not just a playoff thing. I'd say it's more likely that he bounces back in future playoff series than he doesn't.Rational, calm, evidence-based analysis is not welcomed!
Nevermind what Patrick Kane, the light and talented Patrick Kane, can and cannot do in the postseason. There are simply physical limitations -- if you're under 6' and 225 lbs, you're basically useless!
>I'm not sure why Marner is always used as an example but Matthews who's a big dude isn't.While I do think the size concern is definitely amplified in the playoffs, I'm not sure why Marner is always used as an example but Matthews who's a big dude isn't. It really does depend how competitive the player is. Even though he's stocky for his size, Marchessault is still a light guy compared to most NHLers but he's an absolute bull dog who's been money in the playoffs. Pettersson's been really bad since his extension, it's not just a playoff thing. I'd say it's more likely that he bounces back in future playoff series than he doesn't.
Skinner stinking cost the Oilers two games. It would have never gone to seven with adequate goaltending.They needed 7 games to beat a team playing their 3rd string goalie. The goalie looked great, but they should’ve sliced and diced like a real contender would.
Even just discussing this size thing, I remember getting into arguments saying that I'd much rather have Keller over PLD last year because the difference in compete level is drastically different. Big guys with below average compete are essentially useless.For the same reason certain commentators compare Michkov to Gaudreau but not to Kucherov or Kane. Because being both unimaginative and self-convinced, they think everyone else is as incurious as themselves.
If I'm the Canucks I'm trading Hronek, the guy was completely awful in the playoffs. I don't get the Hughes criticism, he was overworked like crazy because everyone else not named Zadorov sucked. It's really tough news about Boeser, hopefully he comes back healthy. Demko's injury concerns are real but I think they should still receive good enough goaltending. Their depth is going to take a big hit. Joshua/Zadorov/Lindholm are all due for massive raises compared to what they were getting before. The thing they will have going for them is that their division is really bad. I think only the Oilers and Knights are locks at making the playoffs next year.Pettersson's not fully arrived as a superstar and the decline since his contract was signed is unfortunate but if you're going to bet on any NHL player hitting that level, it would be silly to bet against on the 25 year old career PPG+ player with 24 in 30 playoff games. The Canucks weren't even meant to be a Cup Contender this year. They'll hit next year with a different mentality and expectations and we'll see how it shakes out.
Skinner stinking cost the Oilers two games. It would have never gone to seven with adequate goaltending.
All I'm saying is I saw him get blown up multiple times as players hit way more in playoffs, and while he wasn't Marner or anything, I don't think he wasn't as effective as regular season.That's a very bold claim. He was one of the best players in this series for both teams.
Yeah as mentioned, I thought he was one of the best players in the series and he and Zadorov were alone in the backend. Soucy/Cole are big boys who got exposed badly even if they didn't get "blown up" as much as Hughes.All I'm saying is I saw him get blown up multiple times as players hit way more in playoffs, and while he wasn't Marner, he wasn't as effective as regular season.
Size itself isn't the full thing to determine how effective a player is in playoffs, but rather how they play, aka Gally is small but can still thrive.
True - it is a dip below his regular season - should have used a better example to sayYeah as mentioned, I thought he was one of the best players in the series and he and Zadorov were alone in the backend. Soucy/Cole are big boys who got exposed badly even if they didn't get "blown up" as much as Hughes.
Gallagher is a massive playoff disappointment, he's got 31 points in 71 games. Those are brutal numbers. He's not an example I would use when thinking of small guys who thrive when it matters. Not to mention that he gets absolutely manhandled with ease.
That’s gold coming from you of all peopleRational, calm, evidence-based analysis is not welcomed!
Shots fired!That’s gold coming from you of all people
I was too stats focused and didn’t count on Slafkovsky’s intangibles making a big difference in his growth trajectory. What’s your excuse for cooking up conspiracy theories to smear players you happen to dislike? Is that evidence-based?That’s gold coming from you of all people
Not sure what Tkachuk has anything to do with the argument. I’m talking about Pettersson. His first playoffs, 10 of his 18 points were on the PP. Something was off here and he seemed to get pushed around way too easily.I mean it could very well be a one time thing, he was sensational in his first playoffs. Big gritty Matthew Tkachuk was dog shit for the Flames in the playoffs and look at him with the Panthers. If it's a pattern with Pettersson in the future, then I'd agree.
Is there even such a thing?
I think it’s more of a thirst for anything with a pulse offensively, something I figure you’d agree with; the need for a more firepower.
he has brutal, totally agree.Pettersson’s playoffs should show people what lighter talented players can and cannot do in the postseason. Woof he was bad.
Pretty sure he was injured, he sucked the last month of the season too and his shot wasn't the same as before.Pettersson’s playoffs should show people what lighter talented players can and cannot do in the postseason. Woof he was bad.
As far as I’m concerned this was a hugely successful season for the Canucks. Great year and they almost made the third round despite some key losses. Edmonton’s experience won the day and while it may be painful now the Canucks will learn from this.
It’ll be interesting to see if Edmonton can finally pull it off. I think they might be able to get past Dallas but I don’t think they match up well against the Rangers - should they make it.
Such a disappointing game 7. The Canucks as usual took too long to wake up. I was really hoping they'd let loose on Skinner. I appreciate the gameplan to maintain possession and limit low quality shots, but strategies like that are manipulatable, and an opponent can game things to run out the clock and force things at the end of games.
The Canucks should've started blasting shots at puck drop and I bet it would've caught the Oil off guard, maybe a goal would come out of it. But it would've set a better tone for the Canucks to control the game, at home, with the crowd etc.
Garland was awesome the whole series, and I thought Petterson wasn't great but wasn't horrid either. Silovs did all he could. I think if Boeser was in this could've been a different story. But in the end, Canucks left it too late, and the Oilers deserve to move on.
Demko was a big loss. Border in game 7… brutal. As for Pettersen I’ve gotta think he’s hurt or something, he dropped right off.I actually envisioned a canucks/oilers matchup for much of the season. And I had the Canucks to beat them
However, after seeing demko go down, and then pettersson not playing anywhere near the level he can or needed to be down the stretch, I reverted to picking the oilers just before the series began.
However, it still turned out to be a difficult task for the oilers. Granted, svilovs fared much better than I thought it would go, but pettersson never did get it going, then boeser was the final nail.... just too many obstacles to overcome for the Canucks by the end of it.
YA good point.. time will tell and if he was hurt? that could be it tooDemko was a big loss. Border in game 7… brutal. As for Pettersen I’ve gotta think he’s hurt or something, he dropped right off.
Maybe he’s the second coming of Marner but I think it’s way too early to say that now.