Please Vote for the Six Best Players Listed. They're listed in random order.
First 5 then Bourque who obviously was much better than Bossy all time.Went with the top five, plus Bossy.
Something about nine straight 50+ goal seasons, it just feels special.
If you switch OV and Lidstrom, that's who I have.In order:
Crosby
Roy
Jagr
Bourque/Ovechkin/Hasek. Bit unsure in what order these 3 fall
Lidstrom would be #7
That’s who I took, but if you look at jagr’s playoff stats, they are underwelming compared to his regular season. I think I’d have Roy over Jagr for that reason.Top 5 + Bourque. So that leaves Roy out. Who would he overtake?
That’s who I took, but if you look at jagr’s playoff stats, they are underwelming compared to his regular season. I think I’d have Roy over Jagr for that reason.
In fairness you could argue that's still underwhelming (for him anyways), given that he routinely outproduced Sakic and Forsberg by fairly large margins in the regular season. The gap closed significantly in the postseason to the point you could say there is none at all and actually in favour of Sakic and Forsberg given their two way play.That’s only really due to games played outside of his prime though. His team went to the finals at 18 and 40 which is about a quarter of his playoff games. From 19-35 he had 168 points in 145 games, which is the 3rd most points in that time frame after Sakic and Forsberg, and the only guys with a better points per game with over 50 games during that time were Lemieux and Gretzky
in the highest scoring era everWent with the top five, plus Bossy.
Something about nine straight 50+ goal seasons, it just feels special.
in the highest scoring era ever
with scoring going up again, I think Bedard may have a shot.Correct.
He's still the only one to ever pull it off.....and I doubt that'll change any time soon.
In fairness you could argue that's still underwhelming (for him anyways), given that he routinely outproduced Sakic and Forsberg by fairly large margins in the regular season. The gap closed significantly in the postseason to the point you could say there is none at all and actually in favour of Sakic and Forsberg given their two way play.
with scoring going up again, I think Bedard may have a shot.
Depends how much higher scoring will get, and should go up again with 2 more expansion teams on the way
scoring currently at 6.2 GPG, Bossy's era 7-8 GPG
really depends how well the Blackhawks can build the team, obviously literally starting from the bottom. This summer's pick should be a good one.Ten years from now you may be right about Bedard......wouldn't mind seeing him take a huge step forward next season.
I mean, even looking at the stats you posted, Jagr's point per game gap over his peers dropped quite a bit.I don't know that I would even say that.
Jagr's peak is 1994-1995 to 2000-2001.
Regular season:
Jagr 1.54 ppg
Lindros 1.35 ppg
Sakic 1.30 ppg
Forsberg 1.24 ppg
Playoffs
Jagr 1.23 ppg
Lindros 1.14 ppg
Sakic 1.14 ppg
Forsberg 1.14 ppf
Certainly the gap closed a bit maybe, but Jagr is still clear #1 (I left out Lemieux fyi).
And in terms of being clutch in the playoffs - I know Forsberg and certainly Sakic are great in that regards, but are they even better then Jagr? Jagr is the all-time leader in playoff points that either tie a game/give the lead in 3rd period/OT - 39 points.
Top 100 Players Since 1979/80 for 3rd Period/OT Game-Tying or Go-Ahead Goals in Playoffs
Source was Hockey References' game finder, I went through and added up totals for players that either tied the game up in the 3rd period, or scored go-ahead goals in either the 3rd period or Overtime. Active players are in bold/capitalized. RankPlayerGoals 1Brett Hull20 2Joe Sakic19 3Jaromir...forums.hfboards.com
Jagr often gets a bad reputation for playoffs, but he was actually a terrific playoff performer.