HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #87: 2024 Season Finale

[Vachon23]

I mean if Minny offer Matt Boldy for a package that included the 5th oa go for it but it won’t happen so just draft

 

[sampollock]

Good quote

As former Canadien Chris Nilan said several times this season on The Gazette’s Hockey Inside/Out Show, the team needs “more men.”


The intensity and physicality in the playoffs is always above and beyond what we see during the regular season. As former Canadiens GM Marc Bergevin liked to say, there are some players who get you to the playoffs and some who get you through the playoffs.

 

[eklund the clown]

Who knows when we will be picking #5 again .Unless some team offers something real good and it wont happen so you use the pick

 

[SwiftyHab]

Tampa just traded for McDonaugh. Let’s get the trades started!

 

[Miller Time]

Good quote

As former Canadien Chris Nilan said several times this season on The Gazette’s Hockey Inside/Out Show, the team needs “more men.”


The intensity and physicality in the playoffs is always above and beyond what we see during the regular season. As former Canadiens GM Marc Bergevin liked to say, there are some players who get you to the playoffs and some who get you through the playoffs.

The same Chris Nilan whose playoff production was 1/2 his regular season output?

Probably not the best guy to go to for advice on what it takes to step up come playoff time... Ditto Bargainbin lol

 

[sampollock]

The same Chris Nilan whose playoff production was 1/2 his regular season output?

Probably not the best guy to go to for advice on what it takes to step up come playoff time... Ditto Bargainbin lol

I think he's talking more toughness than scoring and grit

 

[Treb]

Grit and toughness worked so well the year we got King, Ott and Martinsen...

What we still need first and foremost is skill. After that, we can upgrade on the grit element in our bottom 6.

 

[sampollock]

Grit and toughness worked so well the year we got King, Ott and Martinsen...

What we still need first and foremost is skill. After that, we can upgrade on the grit element in our bottom 6.

I think possibly he holds them in skill but not everybody the size of Gomer

 

[Treb]

I think possibly he holds them in skill but not everybody the size of Gomer

The only small guy in our mid-term top6 is Caufield and we have a 6'3" and 6'4" guy. As long as the final guy to comple Caufield, Suzuki, Slaf, Newhook and Dach isn't small, we won't have a small top6 (at least not to the level of the previous 30 years).

In the up and coming forward prospects, Farrell is the only small guy.

 

[sampollock]

The only small guy in our mid-term top6 is Caufield and we have a 6'3" and 6'4" guy. As long as the final guy to comple Caufield, Suzuki, Slaf, Newhook and Dach isn't small, we won't have a small top6 (at least not to the level of the previous 30 years).

In the up and coming forward prospects, Farrell is the only small guy.

About time
Good post

 

[Scriptor]

Wasn't the last tally on Demidov 6'1", 195 lbs? It kept going up daily for an entire week. Somebody had to be lying somewhere along the way, no?

 

[salbutera]

Grit and toughness worked so well the year we got King, Ott and Martinsen...

What we still need first and foremost is skill. After that, we can upgrade on the grit element in our bottom 6.

But it did without a doubt help in 2021 playoffs …

 

[Benstheman]

Draft Lindstrom, MBN and Miettinen and we’re good.

 

[Treb]

But it did without a doubt help in 2021 playoffs …

I don't think the 2021 forward corps is that much grittier than the 2024 one.

 

[Miller Time]

But it did without a doubt help in 2021 playoffs …

Not nearly as much as the skill factor Price brought to the table.

 

[Canadiens98]

Let's worry about getting the guys who can get us to the playoffs before we worry about targeting those who can get us through the playoffs.

 

[MrNasty]

I don't think the 2021 forward corps is that much grittier than the 2024 one.

Maybe not forwards but they had a lot of playoff experience (Perry, Staal). I would argue that the lack of physicality from our forwards is in part why they ran out of steam in the finals. The defense on the other hand was very tough to play against.

 

[Deebs]

Let's worry about getting the guys who can get us to the playoffs before we worry about targeting those who can get us through the playoffs.

Shouldn't many of them be one and the same?

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Who knows when we will be picking #5 again .Unless some team offers something real good and it wont happen so you use the pick

Probably next year

 

[Habs7631]

Probably next year

Correct.

After Calgary ends up giving us #11 and we have the #12. We combine them both to move into the top 6.

 

[BozoTheClown]

Grit and toughness worked so well the year we got King, Ott and Martinsen...

What we still need first and foremost is skill. After that, we can upgrade on the grit element in our bottom 6.

Ott and King never played in the NHL again after their stints with the Habs and Martinsen played only 33 more NHL games.
Those were bad trades for bad players by a bad GM.
Many teams added size and grit for the playoffs again this year.

We absolutely need offensive skills, skills with size would be best.

 

[Habs7631]

I saw this picture on the main board.

Kent needs to be spamming this during the negotiations.

 

[Egresch]

Let's worry about getting the guys who can get us to the playoffs before we worry about targeting those who can get us through the playoffs.

Yeah, let's create Leafs v2.0 in Montreal.

 

[ReHabs]

Trading Matheson would be one step back (in the hunt to improve our regular season standings) but maybe two steps forward (asset management) if we want to be super pragmatic. But the connection Hughes has to Matheson makes it not very encouraging to think about potential trades away.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Still would leave the door open for CGY to sweep in and make a massive offer to the Sens and Utah.

Habs can’t use these kind of strategies if Iginla is the target. CGY will do anything to get him. Take him at 5 (if he’s their BPA) and make some other deal to land a second high pick, say 11-16.

Risky yes. I'm only engaging on some conversations to move down if Iggy is not our prime target. He is mine so I'm like 95% staying at 5.