This team isnt going anywhere until those prospects become NHL'ers. And considering Blowman seems to like the players he has either traded for or chose in the draft, you cannot pass on a franchise defenseman who will become the best defenseman on the Hawks faster then slower.
I get it. The glimmer of hope that this team, constructed as it is at the moment, might get some players who peak at a certain time and might make a dent in the playoffs, with thoughts of the Cup year still fresh in so many Hawk fans heads. But the thing is, that team had a surplus of depth of which has been proven to be probably the greatest group of talent the Hawks might have ever seen, with many of those players being huge difference makers for other teams since the purge. That, isnt here anymore, and wont be until these highly reguarded prospects in this forum are on the team. Many which make the Hawks so top heavy in forward prospects that there can be a trade to actually fix what is wrong with the Hawks, namely, the defense.
You are not gonna win a Cup with a pylon like Nick Leddy playing top four minutes, sad but true. You are not winning anything with the scrap heap defenseman Blowman has kicked the tires on hoping to catch lightning in a bottle. But, what you will do, is get a projected franchise defenseman, an american kid no less, who has been compared to Pronger taking the burden off of the Hawks top pairing which would in turn make Keith play better then he has since his Norris year by doing the one thing nobody on this defense can actually do...give him a rest here and there.
Again, the Hawks have no problem scoring goals, they have a problem letting them in their own net.
TT looked impressive from what I saw of WJC
Shalunov and Danault were solid in both ends (Though not successfull offensively)
McNeill was disappointing
I don't see Murray becoming anything less than a good top 4 dman. But like many have said, his ceiling might not be as high as some of those picked after him.
I think Minny really made the mistake of picking Dumba. Not a fan of him. The Pouliot pick was weird too. IMO Dumba and Pouliot going before Trouba will turn out to be a huge mistake. Trouba showed a ton of potential last WJCs and if you watch him at Michigan you can see that he has the talent to be a two way beast in the NHL. I think Cody Ceci may be a bad pick as well with Teravainen and Maatta on board. This whole 1st round was just weird.
Shalunov barely played the last two games from what I saw. Considering how he played at the SSS, and his age, he was kind of a disappointment.
McNeill and Danault were checkers/grinders that weren't expected to produce. Neither got a second of PP and both were used mostly on the PK (though Danault got more minutes at ES). Neither Danault or McNeill were disappointing, they just weren't Kitchener Rangers'.
BWC, why are you always high on our Russians and Euros?
I didn't even read all of this. You don't trade current, in their prime, NHL stars for 18-year-olds who may or may not turn out to be great NHLers. Simple as that.
Agreed. I figured Trouba would be the next defenseman of the board after Murray.
Really don't get the Murray/Erik Johnson comparison. If anything, Seth Jones is an EJ comparable. Both raw physical specimens with all the tools. Murray is a solid, cerebral player. Columbus made a good pick there.
Joe Nieuwendyk for Jarome Iginla
Doyle Alexander for John Smoltz
Yashin for Chara and Spezza.
Shall I go on?
Shalunov is 1 month older then Mcneill/Danault
Please explain to me how that 1 month difference makes him a disappointment? And he was more noticeable then McNeill/Danault in Bronze medal game (Picked up an assist)
Doesnt take away from the fact that a prospect was traded for a player in his prime. Whatever excuses that come along with that fact doesnt trump one I could use which would be king of them all to any dedicated Hawk fan - a trade was made to make them better[/b]. It works both ways.#1 - Flames were looking to shed payroll with Cnd dollar struggling and Flames on decline
How so when in the NHL its also done year after year? You just cant seperate one sport thats built on a similar structure only because its a different sport when the end goal for both sports is the dame thing, winning.#2 - Comparing a Baseball trade deadline deal to NHL is not viable... Prospects are traded every July for vets going to teams in postseason races
He also had another good year before his arm blew up.Tigers needed pitching help that year and Alexander was great down stretch (Blew up in playoffs)
Agreed#3 - Milbury is an idiot and Wang is a fool
Which makes it all the better that the Hawks should do what they can to get a defenseman who has been reguarded as a franchise talent, amirte?Also John Smoltz was not regarded as a top prospect (22nd round pick)
Trading a prospect for a proven player?The Tigers had his potential as a bottom rotation guy ,, So again not comparable to what you are talking about
Here's a fun thing
I've seen lots of Finland fans saying TT was arguably their best forward throughout the entire tournament.
Today in Friedman's 30 Thoughts, he quotes a scout
28. Draftees who struggled: Teuvo Teravainen (Chicago). Had 12 points in six games, but "very unmotivated performance until tourney was already over."
You can choose who you want to believe.
Here's a fun thing
I've seen lots of Finland fans saying TT was arguably their best forward throughout the entire tournament.
Today in Friedman's 30 Thoughts, he quotes a scout
28. Draftees who struggled: Teuvo Teravainen (Chicago). Had 12 points in six games, but "very unmotivated performance until tourney was already over."
You can choose who you want to believe.
I watched all of Finland's games because they were rare day time games for me. He started on the third line (due to the Finnish coach wanting to spread the scoring) with 2 meh linemates in the warm up games whom TT had to carry and he did do that admirably. Injury to one of the Finnish forwards pushed him to the second line with Barkov. Barkov and TT clicked really well and TT was very good especially on the PP(very Karlsson like, he may have learned a thing or two from him at Jokerit).
I think his best game was against Switzerland (which was a do or die game) where the Finns dug themselves a bit of a hole. He scored 2nd and 3rd goals on PP where he got his shot through traffic both times. We finally may have someone competent enough to play the point on PP and not shoot a million miles wide of the net.
He had an average game against Sweden and was on fire in the relegation round against Germany and Slovakia. IMO, He would definitely be in contention for Finnish forward of the tournament. I think highly of Friedman and generally respect his views, but in this instance he is plain wrong and his opinion may have been clouded by poor showing of the Finnish team in the tournament.