Speculation: 2024 Off-Season Thread

JTBF81

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Wonder what happens with Duclair..
Tampa probably can't afford him if they do the smart thing and address the glaring need for an upgrade at RD via ufa. If they stay with mostly the same ineffective personnel as they had last year in that area(and unfortunately, this wouldn't surprise me), then they likely could re-sign Duclair. Of course, if Sheary and Jeannot aren't both moved, there won't be enough cap for Stamkos+Duclair+filling in the other spots.
 

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Hedman-Cernak
McDonagh-Sergachev
Fleury-Raddysh

Point-Stamkos-Paul down the middle in that order Trade Cirelli for an ACTUAL winger instead of just throwing out Stamkos for the 3rd year in a row like "lelz it's really gonna work this time"

Maybe sign Duclair for cheap
 

JTBF81

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Lilleberg should be 3LD and there's no space for Duclair, who will be looking for 4 or.more I'd guess. It's time to see what some of the Syracuse players have rather than trade their 2C for what will no doubt be an underwhelming return. I hope at least one of Goncalves, Groshev, Duke, Gauthier etc gets a real chance next year and hopefully meshes well in a middle 6 role. Tampa will need a couple of prospects to continue to take the next step, although with the cap finally starting to go up again they can be a lityle.more aggressive in free agency over the next couple of years.
 
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Laffery -Glendenning -Eyssimont
Motte - Gonglaves-Jeannot ( if we don't trade him to sign a top 6)
Extras Watson on league minimum two-way deal and Chaffee.
The 3rd and 4th line can be juggled around and play more depending on match up.
 

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Inspired by the "getting-the-band-back-together" spirit...

Sergachev+Sheary for Palat+25 1st or 24 2nd
Sergachev+Jeannot for Coleman+2nd
Sergachev+Sheary+Jeannette for Gourde+Larsson

I tend to think Sergachev holds better value in a trade than Cirelli or Cernak. By the same token I feel like Lightning fans only value Sergachev for his age and the prospects of life beyond Hedman. He isnt bad, nor excessively overpaid, but is the most expendable of players on the team higher than 5m AAV. Even ignoring the bringing back former players aspect, I would rather move Sergachev for a cheaper top 6 wing and/or top 4 RHD using the cap savings to resign Stamkos.


Free agency I am only anticipating unqualified RFAs, Euro FAs, UDFAs, or otherwise minimal impact AHL tweeners with entirely buryable contracts. Improve Syracuse and challenge the current AHL tweeners in the system to earn spots. Nothing to get too excited about. No real names. Young depth that needs to WORK for any minutes on the big club.

Sorry, thought I was in the General Lightning discussion thread. Feel free to move there if so inclined.
 

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Merela and Huuhtanen probably have a better chance than Groshev at making the team.
Groshev seemed to stagnate in the A around midseason. Merela is older and a safe 4th liner if you need someone to eat minutes and give you games. Huuhtanen will need to improve his skating further as well as his defensive awareness, but his offensive upside is very intriguing
 

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Why do everyone think that it will be Hedman-Sergachev and not Hedman-McDonagh? This year McD played a lot with Josi and actually looked pretty good as RD.
 

Sky04

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Hedman-McDonagh does open the door for Sergachev-Cernak though. Looks like McDonagh did play quite a bit of time on the right last season but he also spent twice as much time on the left, it's nice that it gives you options but they clearly have comfort sides/positions.
 
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FrankSidebottom

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I can be a bit off but this seems somewhat realistic.
 

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Sky04

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I can be a bit off but this seems somewhat realistic.

Completely unrealistic.

Stamkos is not taking 3.7M and Johnson although declined is not a 1M player, especially after Sheary got 2M on last year's market to the same team. Any realistic scenario should start with roughly 6M for Stamkos.
 
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FrankSidebottom

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Completely unrealistic.

Stamkos is not taking 3.7M and Johnson although declined is not a 1M player, especially after Sheary got 2M on last year's market to the same team. Any realistic scenario should start with roughly 6M for Stamkos.
It's 3.7x7, roughly the same offer as 6.5x4. For Johnson its 1.1x3, you can change it to 1.1x4 as well, that's more than 2x2 and he's older than Sheary was when he signed.
 

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On the open market, Stamkos still likely gets something close to 9m for a couple of years. I dont believe he will ask that from us, but I think the number will be closer to 9 than 6.

7.5 to 8 maybe? The thing is, he finished the season so hot he probably added a million to whatever deal he winds up with. He looked like he was declining until March. Then he looked peak.
 
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So. none of us are in 91's heads, but does he take 6.5 to stay here or 8.5 to move...and with that, he moves EVERYTHING. We'll see.
 

dbieon12

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I haven't posted much in recent times and that has correlated with Palat and Gourde leaving. Their departures also correlate to the dropoff in quality? Or just coincidence?
 

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