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Blackhawkswincup

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Hawks would need to be able to talk to Marner and his agent before trade to work out extension

To :hawks
RW Mitch Marner (Extended)

To :leafs
C Colton Dach
Hawks 2024 2nd round pick (#34)
Hawks 2025 1st round pick (No protections)

Hawks extend Marner adding him to improve NHL team and look towards moving from getting from point A (Rebuild) to point B (Playoff contention) in coming years

With Hawks draft capital (Currently have 5 1st round picks + 8 2nd round picks over next 3 drafts) and a good prospect pool (Nazar, Moore, Rinzel, Del Mastro, etc) the team is on right track to begin process of improving and looking towards exiting the darkest part of rebuild timeline.

Leafs collect future package and free nearly $11M in cap room to look to strengthen other parts of team. For them this is clean break as they shakeup core and locker room
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AuraSphere

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Would need a forward swap similar to Tkachuk for Huberdeau or a swap for an actual good defensemen for Marner.

Picks are not what we need in Matthews' prime
 
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Blackhawkswincup

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Kevin Musto said:
I think Seth Jones for Mitch Marner makes more sense.

Leafs free up $1,403,000 of cap space, and Jones is better than any D they could add in free agency.

Also Chicago would flip Marner with 50% retention to a contender. They would not extend him.
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Why would Marner waive his NMC to go to Chicago knowing that Hawks would just ship him somewhere else midseason? Also, that is a foolish and unrealistic plan

Look at what happened to Hall this year, acquiring a player to later flip them at TDL is high risk and isn't realistic in this situation
 
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Blackhawkswincup said:
Why would Marner waive his NMC to go to Chicago knowing that Hawks would just ship him somewhere else midseason? Also, that is a foolish and unrealistic plan

Look at what happened to Hall this year, acquiring a player to later flip them at TDL is high risk and isn't realistic in this situation
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Realistically, even with an extension in place, Marner wouldn't want to play for a non-playoff team. So I don't think he'd waive for Chicago in the first place. He probably wants to stay in Toronto.

Hall was damaged goods. Marner is healthy.
 
MajorWeber

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Blackhawkswincup said:
Hawks would need to be able to talk to Marner and his agent before trade to work out extension

To :hawks
RW Mitch Marner (Extended)

To :leafs
C Colton Dach
Hawks 2024 2nd round pick (#34)
Hawks 2025 1st round pick (No protections)

Hawks extend Marner adding him to improve NHL team and look towards moving from getting from point A (Rebuild) to point B (Playoff contention) in coming years

With Hawks draft capital (Currently have 5 1st round picks + 8 2nd round picks over next 3 drafts) and a good prospect pool (Nazar, Moore, Rinzel, Del Mastro, etc) the team is on right track to begin process of improving and looking towards exiting the darkest part of rebuild timeline.

Leafs collect future package and free nearly $11M in cap room to look to strengthen other parts of team. For them this is clean break as they shakeup core and locker room
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In no world are the Hawks trading their 25 1st UNPROTECTED. They don't need a guy like Marner right now and should acquire more picks not trade them away... This trade doesn't make senses
 
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lanceuppercut75

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I can't see Marner with an extension going to Chicago without Seth Jones or Connor Murphy going back to Toronto in the deal. Leads need right handed defenseman who can play D and aren't just power play guys.

Marner with an extension would be the best trade chip the Leafs have by far this offseason, and they should be using their trade chips to add the kinds of players that they're going to need if they want to win a cup.
 
pth2

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If Chicago were sending other picks, or at least top-5 protected, it might make more sense. I figure Toronto would need to have deals in place for at least one D or winger, moving a 1st for a 5M player to right away change the teams structure, since Toronto doesn't need picks, they need players in their prime right now.
 
AlexBrovechkin8

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MajorWeber said:
In no world are the Hawks trading their 25 1st UNPROTECTED. They don't need a guy like Marner right now and should acquire more picks not trade them away... This trade doesn't make senses
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Was going to post this. Unless you are a surefire playoff team it would be lunacy to trade an unprotected 2025 or 2026 first round pick with Hagens and McKenna coming down the pipeline.
 
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ColbyChaos

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Blackhawkswincup said:
Hawks would need to be able to talk to Marner and his agent before trade to work out extension

To :hawks
RW Mitch Marner (Extended)

To :leafs
C Colton Dach
Hawks 2024 2nd round pick (#34)
Hawks 2025 1st round pick (No protections)

Hawks extend Marner adding him to improve NHL team and look towards moving from getting from point A (Rebuild) to point B (Playoff contention) in coming years

With Hawks draft capital (Currently have 5 1st round picks + 8 2nd round picks over next 3 drafts) and a good prospect pool (Nazar, Moore, Rinzel, Del Mastro, etc) the team is on right track to begin process of improving and looking towards exiting the darkest part of rebuild timeline.

Leafs collect future package and free nearly $11M in cap room to look to strengthen other parts of team. For them this is clean break as they shakeup core and locker room
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Wtf hell no
 
Killer Orcas

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Kevin Musto said:
I think Seth Jones for Mitch Marner makes more sense.

Leafs free up $1,403,000 of cap space, and Jones is better than any D they could add in free agency.

Also Chicago would flip Marner with 50% retention to a contender. They would not extend him.
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Makes the most sense indeed but would Jones waive? Marner is after the dollar so he probably would.
 
Neutrinos

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Blackhawkswincup said:
Why would Marner waive his NMC to go to Chicago knowing that Hawks would just ship him somewhere else midseason? Also, that is a foolish and unrealistic plan
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He didn't say midseason...

Chicago could flip him right away to a team Marner is willing to sign with long tem
 
WTFMAN99

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Blackhawkswincup said:
- Marner poor playoffs
- 1 year from UFA
- Nearly 11M cap hit
- Full NMC

Limit market for Marner
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Up until Tkachuk got traded, he had 15 pts in 27GP for Calgary, that is a worse pt/game than Marner

Tkachuk wasn't signing an extension, had trade protection and depending on when the trade goes down Marner, he might be owed only 775k real cash or at worst, 8M real money, still a bargain.

I don't think Chicago has what it takes to get a deal done.
 
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