ATD Chat Thread XIX

[jigglysquishy]

I believe I played it several years ago and was having a great time with the career mode until suddenly, when my team was about to win the world series, my fielders made a comical number of errors in sequence on routine plays and the CPU players all started hitting like Babe Ruth. Does the AI still cheat horribly?

I don't know.

I set difficulty to easy, made a 7 footer 99 overall, and went for 150 HR.

 

[BraveCanadian]

I don't know.

I set difficulty to easy, made a 7 footer 99 overall, and went for 150 HR.

I can't recall what difficulty I was on but I think I was on one of the easier modes and I was having a good time until the AI switch flipped and it was so obvious I never played it again. lol

It is like the "ice tilt" in EA NHL.. garbage.

 

[Professor What]

I can't recall what difficulty I was on but I think I was on one of the easier modes and I was having a good time until the AI switch flipped and it was so obvious I never played it again. lol

It is like the "ice tilt" in EA NHL.. garbage.

I always turned off hero mode on those games when they had the hero line. I got sick of dominating games only to have the AI come charging back with no defense. That's been quite a while though.

 

[Elvis P]

What are your top 10 albums from 1965 -1980. I copied @WetcoastOrca 's list except for Sgt Pepper's.

1. Sgt Pepper's
Neil Young: After the Gold rush
Bowie: Ziggy Stardust
The Band: The Band
Beatles: Revolver
Marvin Gaye: What’s Going On
Beach Boys: Pet Sounds
Dylan: Blood on the Tracks
Pink Floyd: Dark Side of the Moon
Van Morrison: Astral Weeks

 

[Elvis P]

I've done many mock drafts but never hockey playoffs on the main board before. All of my players are in the top 200 project except my checking line. My opponent ripped my team in his first post. In an 8 team draft his wingers are (the numbers are where they went in the last ATD):

74. Martin St. Louis
135. Henrik Zetterberg
168. Marian Hossa
180. John LeClair
214. Rick Middleton
293. Steve Shutt
328. Esa Tikkanen
Mikko Rantanen - Undrafted

 

[rmartin65]

I've done many mock drafts but never hockey playoffs on the main board before. All of my players are in the top 200 project except my checking line. My opponent ripped my team in his first post. In an 8 team draft his wingers are (the numbers are where they went in the last ATD):

74. Martin St. Louis
135. Henrik Zetterberg
168. Marian Hossa
180. John LeClair
214. Rick Middleton
293. Steve Shutt
328. Esa Tikkanen
Mikko Rantanen - Undrafted

This is why I stay away from the mains.

 

[Elvis P]

@rmartin65 and everyone else. Please ignore the RD's real handedness. After a team has 4 Cs, I'm gonna put Cs at W on their correct shooting side except Yzerman is on the wrong side. This is just for fun. Which team would win?

TEAM A

Mark Messier - Mario Lemieux - Jaromir Jagr
Alex Ovechkin - Sidney Crosby - Guy Lafleur
Joe Sakic - Bobby Clarke - Sergei Makarov
Steve Yzerman - Bryan Trottier - Mike Bossy

Ray Bourque - Viacheslav Fetisov
Nicklas Lidstrom - Larry Robinson
Denis Potvin - Chris Chelios

Patrick Roy
Dominik Hasek

TEAM B

Bobby Hull - Jean Beliveau - Gordie Howe
Phil Esposito - Howie Morenz - Maurice Richard
Ted Lindsay - Frank Nighbor - Bill Cook
Frank Boucher - Stan Mikita - Newsy Lalonde

Doug Harvey - Eddie Shore
Red Kelly - King Clancy
Cyclone Taylor - Pierre Pilote

Jacques Plante
Glenn Hall​

 

[Hockey Outsider]

What are your top 10 albums from 1965 -1980. I copied @WetcoastOrca 's list except for Sgt Pepper's.

1. Sgt Pepper's
Neil Young: After the Gold rush
Bowie: Ziggy Stardust
The Band: The Band
Beatles: Revolver
Marvin Gaye: What’s Going On
Beach Boys: Pet Sounds
Dylan: Blood on the Tracks
Pink Floyd: Dark Side of the Moon
Van Morrison: Astral Weeks

Limiting it to (vaguely) rock, and one album per artist:

1. Black Sabbath - "Paranoid" (1970)
2. Camel - "Mirage" (1974)
3. King Crimson - "Red" (1974)
4. Led Zeppelin - "Led Zeppelin I" (1969)
5. Pink Floyd - "Animals" (1977)
6. The Stooges - "Fun House" (1970)
7. Thin Lizzy - "Live and Dangerous" (1978) (do live albums count? is this even really a live album?)
8. The Who - "Quadrophenia" (1973)
9. Wishbone Ash - "Argus" (1972)
10. Yes - "Fragile" (1971)

 

[seventieslord]

That's a really tough question. You have everything that the Beatles released post 1965, everything the rolling Stones released post aftermath and at least through goat's head soup, minus their satanic Majesty's request of course, Dylan's three electric albums, who's next, the four quintessential Pink Floyd albums plus meddle, songs in the key of life, black sabbath, paranoid, just about everything by Zeppelin is in the running, all things must pass, band on the run, Lennon's first two, ram.... It feels like I already have about 30 albums in my top 10 from that era and I doubt I've even remembered each one.

Get your wings, toys in the attic, rocks...

At least the first couple from The Ramones

Rumors and Hotel California

Court and spark, blue, harvest, everybody knows this is nowhere

 

[VanIslander]

Putting my beloved Motown, Beatles, The Rolling Stones and classical music albums aside,... (cuz they'd crowd the room)

These also live in my life:

A Love Supreme, John Coltrane (1965)
Electric Ladyland, Jimmy Hendrix (1968)
Bitches' Brew, Miles Davis (1970)
Songs of Love and Hate, Leonard Cohen (1971)
Blue, Joni Mitchell (1971)
Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, Elton John (1973)
Hotel California, The Eagles (1976)
The Wall, Pink Floyd (1979)
Diana, Diana Ross (1980)
Back in Black, ACDC (1980)

Great music never gets old.
Thanks to this exercise, i'm gonna put these albums on during my all-day hike this weekend. Cheers.

 

[Elvis P]

^ @seventieslord Great post.

 

[Elvis P]

@seventieslord Here's my desert island playlist made from just a dozen albums:

 

[Habsfan18]

Been playing around with FHM 10 recently. Started a “random debut” historical mode in 1909, and simulated many years to build up a league history before stopping to check career paths, award winners, all-time leaderboards etc..I then enter spectator mode, which is basically I play unemployed and just watch the league unfold as a “fan” rather than controlling a team. Keep in mind that since it’s random debut, the game engine takes over and player development is handled by the game engine. In regular historical mode you have the option to play with re-calc, which means player ratings will be recalculated each off-season to give a more accurate representation of the abilities for each player. When using the player dev engine rather than re-calc, most players will still develop pretty similarly to real life, but you’ll see the odd scrub develop into a decent player in the game, or a player who was a decent average NHLer for a decade in real life may be a career minor leaguer in your game file. Also, the iron curtain rule doesn’t apply when enabling random debut.

The 1987 Stanley Cup finals just ended with the 49-24-7 New Jersey Devils defeating the 45-28-7 Winnipeg Jets in 6 games.

The Devils are managed by Ron Caron, who has been with the franchise since 1978-1979 (Colorado Rockies). He had previously coached the Indianapolis Racers and Chicago Cougars of the WHA. They’re coached by Tom Johnson who has also been with the franchise since 1978. He had previously coached the Vancouver Canucks from 1971-1972 to 1977-1978.

Their Cup winning line-up, with ages:

Luc Robitaille (29) - Sid Abel (30) - Rick Middleton (31)
Jamie Benn (21) - Bobby Clarke (26) - Terry O’Reilly (25)
Carl Liscombe (27) - Ric Seiling (29) - O Bjorkstrand (26)
Sergei Shepelev (31) - Vladimir Kovin (32) - Nik Ehlers (30)

Morgan Rielly (25) - Jerry Korab (24)
Ian Turnbull (24) - Bedrich Scerban (23)
Dmitry Orlov (32) - Yves Racine (29)

Mike Palmateer (21)
Jocelyn Thibault (30)

John Ross Roach also played some games in goal for the Devils during the season, before Thibault was acquired in a trade. Roach is 35 and was sent to the minors.

Hart Trophy: Aleksander Barkov
Art Ross: Sid Abel
Conn Smythe: Morgan Rielly
Ted Lindsay: Aleksander Barkov
Calder: Alex Ovechkin
Norris: Doug Wilson
Selke: Rick Meagher
Vezina: Gump Worsley
Lady Byng: Rick Middleton
Bill Masterton: Bohuslav Ebermann
Jack Adams: Terry Crisp

First team all-stars:

Gump Worsley
Doug Wilson
Dit Clapper
Filip Forsberg
Aleksander Barkov
Rick Middleton

Second team all-stars:

Jacques Plante
Shea Theodore
Sergei Zubov
Luc Robitaille
Sid Abel
Andy Bathgate

All-rookie team:

Glenn Hall
David Cullen
Philip Larsen
Alex Ovechkin
Theo Fleury
Cam Neely

Simmed a few weeks and the 1987 Draft has taken place.

Top 10:

1. Detroit - Brady Tkachuk
2. Buffalo - Johnny Gottselig
3. Philadelphia - Bernie Geoffrion
4. New York Rangers - Bill Durnan
5. Vancouver - Glenn Anderson
6. Boston - Cam York
7. Montreal - Marc Tardif
8. Toronto - Ott Heller
9. Los Angeles - Ken Linseman
10. Calgary - Gordie Drillon

The 1987 HHOF Class:

Alexander Yakushev
Doug Harvey
Pierre Pilote
Al Smith

 

[VanIslander]

 

[Elvis P]

@Habsfan18 ^ I've thought about doing that but unless there's an option where the players are their real ages in relation to each other, it's not for me.

 

[Habsfan18]

@Habsfan18 ^ I've thought doing that but unless there's an option where the players are their real ages in relation to each other, it's not for me.

You can play historical mode any way you want. I just use random debut because I think it’s fun, but it’s completely optional. You can start in any season you’d like, from 1909 to present day. And you can choose to play with authentic rosters and ages if you wish.

 

[seventieslord]

@seventieslord Here's my desert island playlist made from just a dozen albums:

Jeez, totally forgot blood on the tracks, goodbye yellow Brick road and are you experienced. I think I'm up to 40 by now.

 

[Elvis P]

Jeez, totally forgot blood on the tracks, goodbye yellow Brick road and are you experienced. I think I'm up to 40 by now.

@seventieslord Those are all great. When I was a kid a college student went abroad, and I got to keep her albums for a year. The first album (2 records) I fell in love with was Goodbye Yellow Brick Road and the first hard rock album I heard was Canada's very own BTO "Taking Care of Business". The first album I ever bought was Jim Croce. When I was 14 my dad and an out of state guest picked me up from school, I begged them to take me to K-Mart on the way home, and I bought my all-time favorite non-Blues album Songs in the Key of Life (2 records). I know it's only rock n roll, but I like it.

 

[Elvis P]

BC (pictured above) may be a @BraveCanadian, the Dudley Do-Right of the ATD, but I'm a cowardly American, the Courage the Cowardly Dog of the ATD.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

For the record, my list was 100% subjective (a list of my favourite albums - I prefer heavy metal and progressive rock). A more objective list (of the "greatest" or most influential albums from that timeframe) might be something like:

• AC/DC - Back in Black
• Black Sabbath - Paranoid
• Bob Dylan - Blonde on Blonde
• Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
• CCR - Cosmo's Factory
• Cream - Disraeli Gears
• David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust
• Deep Purple - Machine Head
• Genesis - Selling England by the Pound
• Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden
• Jethro Tull - Aqualung
• Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experienced?
• Judas Priest - British Steel
• King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
• Led Zeppelin - IV
• Motorhead - Ace of Spades
• Neil Young - Harvest
• Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon
• Pink Floyd - The Wall
• Queen - A Night at the Opera
• The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
• The Beatles - Abbey Road
• The Beatles - Revolver
• The Beatles - Rubber Soul
• The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper
• The Clash - London Calling
• The Doors - LA Woman
• The Kinks - The Village Green Preservation Society
• The Ramones - The Ramones
• The Rolling Stones - Beggar's Banquet
• The Rolling Stones - Let it Bleed
• The Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks
• The Who - Quadrophenia
• The Who - Who's Next
• Van Halen - Van Halen

These albums (if listened to chronologically) give you a good overview of the evolution of mainstream rock music.

 

[VanIslander]

For the record, my list was 100% subjective...

AC/DC - Back in Black
Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experienced?
Led Zeppelin - IV
Neil Young - Harvest
Pink Floyd - The Wall
Queen - A Night at the Opera
The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
The Doors - LA Woman

These sing.

I had to exclude the Beatles. They crowd the room.

 

[jigglysquishy]

Led Zeppelin is my favourite band.

IV is their most iconic album and the most broadly popular. But their first will always be my favourite.

 

[VanIslander]

Shame's on us.

The Beach Boys owned 1965-70.

Your brain has their songs hardwired in.

This vinyl i had from age 8 to 17:
Endless Summer (1974)

 

[Elvis P]

Bleacher Report has Roy ranked as the 22nd best Hab ever.

Some people call me the space cowboy, some call me the gangster of love, some people call me Maurice, 'Cause I speak of the pompatus of love. Maurice Richard

 

[Hockey Outsider]

IV is their most iconic album and the most broadly popular. But their first will always be my favourite.

Same for me. There's very little separating I, II, IV, and Houses of the Holy - but if I were forced to pick one, it would be the debut.