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[Reverend Mayhem]

Reports are the Canucks felt they made a stronger offer for Tanev than the Stars but the Flames, for reason not stated, went with the Stars instead.

Too many trades with us recently. Remember when trading within your division was taboo?

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Lindholm has turned into a disaster.

Out for the regular season.

Couldn't even LTIR him before the TDL to leverage a deal like Vegas.

Just brutal.

This is why insiders get such a bad name. He outright said he heard it’s as a rumour and was told not to go forward with it, and here you are taking it as gospel. Sorry to come at you, but just state exactly what he says because someone else is going to read it, take it as gospel and it’s all “Friedman SAID!!!! Wahhhh”

 

[Peen]

drance cited paul, marchment, and engvall as comps

those were 18-22MM contracts

… 3.5x6 for Joshua?

 

[LemonSauceD]

drance cited paul, marchment, and engvall as comps

those were 18-22MM contracts

… 3.5x6 for Joshua?

Pen to paper, get that shit done.

 

[TruGr1t]

Reports are the Canucks felt they made a stronger offer for Tanev than the Stars but the Flames, for reason not stated, went with the Stars instead.

Yeah but they could have had him for that 1st rounder, reportedly. Probably would have taken heat for it at the time, but would have worked out better. Spent it on Lindholm instead. Would have been easier to swallow if they traded for Tanev and extended him.

 

[HairyKneel]

What incentive does his camp have to sign now? The longer they wait, the larger his deal.

Joshua has a camp?

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Joshua has a camp?

Camp Crystal Lake

 

[Petey O]

drance cited paul, marchment, and engvall as comps

those were 18-22MM contracts

… 3.5x6 for Joshua?

Pretty much every good team needs these kind of contracts locking effective middle 6 guys up. I do that every day of the week.

 

[TruGr1t]

drance cited paul, marchment, and engvall as comps

those were 18-22MM contracts

… 3.5x6 for Joshua?

Way too much term in my opinion, and he has a pretty short track record. I'd probably do that AAV over 3-4 years. I'd be surprised if he gets over $4M x 4 in UFA.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

drance cited paul, marchment, and engvall as comps

those were 18-22MM contracts

… 3.5x6 for Joshua?

I’d do that deal. Immediately.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

This is why insiders get such a bad name. He outright said he heard it’s as a rumour and was told not to go forward with it, and here you are taking it as gospel. Sorry to come at you, but just state exactly what he says because someone else is going to read it, take it as gospel and it’s all “Friedman SAID!!!! Wahhhh”

I could care less what Fridgeman said.

There is 6 games left and no word on Lindholm.

It’s very likely he doesn’t play another game until the playoffs.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

Really interesting Rutherford interview with iMac. Thought this line was revealing:

SN: How careful do you need to be about term for Hronek – or anyone? Brock Boeser’s contract is up after next season, Thatcher Demko has two years remaining and your captain and MVP, Quinn Hughes, is up in three.

JR: We do projections on a weekly basis. It almost gets tiring sometimes because we go over and over the same thing. But our projections cap-wise go out as far as the year we have to sign Quinn.

Left unsaid: "...and then we collapse into tears."

 

[LemonSauceD]

Ik Vector brought this up many months ago but someone I can totally see us going after this off season is Laine.

-Winger for Petey (can play either wing)
-CBJ has to retain + take on a cap dump
-contract expires in 2 years
-we have the cap space ($28.4M to work with this off season)
-Excels on the PP
-would be one of our only players that can beat a goalie clean from a distance
-has 40-50 goal potential

cons
-mental health concerns
-fitness from time off?
-ovechkin controller disconnect moments
-can have extended stretches of low intensity effort

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Ik Vector brought this up many months ago but someone I can totally see us going after this off season is Laine.

-Winger for Petey (can play either wing)
-CBJ has to retain + take on a cap dump
-contract expires in 2 years
-we have the cap space ($28.4M to work with this off season)
-Excels on the PP
-would be one of our only players that can beat a goalie clean from a distance
-has 40-50 goal potential

cons
-mental health concerns
-fitness from time off?
-ovechkin controller disconnect moments
-can have extended stretches of low intensity effort

There's pretty much zero reason for Columbus to trade Laine for anything that makes sense for us. Or anyone else, really. His value is essentially rock bottom. So they'd retain 50% and get offers of menial value. Just don't see them wanting to dump him quite yet.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

Ik Vector brought this up many months ago but someone I can totally see us going after this off season is Laine.

-Winger for Petey (can play either wing)
-CBJ has to retain + take on a cap dump
-contract expires in 2 years
-we have the cap space ($28.4M to work with this off season)
-Excels on the PP
-would be one of our only players that can beat a goalie clean from a distance
-has 40-50 goal potential

cons
-mental health concerns
-fitness from time off?
-ovechkin controller disconnect moments
-can have extended stretches of low intensity effort

"What if Kuzmenko but twice as expensive and coming off rehab" is not something i can really see Allvin doing this summer

 

[Vector]

"What if Kuzmenko but twice as expensive and coming off rehab" is not something i can really see Allvin doing this summer

The idea was Laine at 50% retention (4.35m) for 2 more seasons. He’s make less than Mikheyev. This was when he was getting healthy scratched, was fighting with the franchise, and Jarmo was the GM.

Only way I could see it happening is for a swap of another disappointing player with high upside or they want to clear space for the young guys. Only way the Canucks would be interested is if everyone was convinced Laine would be motivated and Tocchet could have a Kessel-like impact on him.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

I could care less what Fridgeman said.

I’m aware, and I’ve addressed that. Also it’s couldn’t, you couldn’t care less. Man I’m really on one tonight. Sorry.

There is 6 games left and no word on Lindholm.

It’s very likely he doesn’t play another game until the playoffs.

That said I’d be moderately surprised if he did. What a flop.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

I don’t think he makes it to free agency, but if he does, what do you think Reinhart signs for? Canucks could potentially have about $7-8 million to throw at a top 6 forward (or more if they can dump Mikheyev).

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

I don’t think he makes it to free agency, but if he does, what do you think Reinhart signs for? Canucks could potentially have about $7-8 million to throw at a top 6 forward (or more if they can dump Mikheyev).

Real question to me is if Ekblad shakes loose in Florida. I can see the Panthers prioritizing Montour and Reinhart over him.

 

[theguardianII]

There's pretty much zero reason for Columbus to trade Laine for anything that makes sense for us. Or anyone else, really. His value is essentially rock bottom. So they'd retain 50% and get offers of menial value. Just don't see them wanting to dump him quite yet.

When the Canucks traded Kuzmenko they lost the threat of a scorer, just the possibility of him catching fire got defensive consideration. He is traded and they lost that threat.

Laine would definitely be worthy of a trial run at 50% nd the threat of his reputation would garner extra attention.

This team is going to look different next year.

While it is too soon to say, without Demko they don't look like a complete playoff team.
Demko and the defence ARE playoff ready but there isn't enough effective intensity production.
But surprise do happen, not very often or Vegas bookies would go broke, but occasionally.

Now I posted that someone will bring up Florida last year, but they will ignore that Florida was President trophy winners the year before so they were already a good team, not a huge surprise

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

I’m aware, and I’ve addressed that. Also it’s couldn’t, you couldn’t care less. Man I’m really on one tonight. Sorry.



That said I’d be moderately surprised if he did. What a flop.

I would agree if I didn't reply, then it would mean I couldn't care less because it's not worth addressing.

Since I replied, it means I could care less since clearly I care alittle.

 

[iceburg]

A month ago I was trying to figure out how they were going to sign all of Joshua, Hronek, Zadorov, Lindholm, Blueger, Lafferty, and DeSmith.

I actually don't see them re-signing Lafferty or Blueger this summer. Both have been great. But Podkolzin, Raty, Bains, Sasson, and Karlson are all making cases for bottom 6 roster spots next year. The least likely to make it is Karlson because of foot speed though he can clearly score at the AHL level and is decent defensively.

I just don't see them spending the extra $2M on Lafferty and Blueger when they have half a dozen players in the organization that are knocking on the door and, with internal competition, are not downgrades and may even be upgrades.

If Zadorov wants big money and term, they probably won't sign him.

Lindholm is all about what they can get by reallocating his cap space, if they even want to try to re-sign him.

DeSmith, he's good but that extra $1M may be better used elsewhere.

At the end of the day, they may only seek to re-sign Joshua and Hronek and I'd be OK with that. Gives a lot of flexibility to acquire a top 4 D and a top 6 winger.

 

[Vector]

I don’t think he makes it to free agency, but if he does, what do you think Reinhart signs for? Canucks could potentially have about $7-8 million to throw at a top 6 forward (or more if they can dump Mikheyev).

He's probably asking for 10-11m.

 

[LemonSauceD]

"What if Kuzmenko but twice as expensive and coming off rehab" is not something i can really see Allvin doing this summer

Another lazy “he’s just a Kuzmenko” lol

Nobody is taking his full cap hit in a trade scenario

 

[StickShift]

I don’t think he makes it to free agency, but if he does, what do you think Reinhart signs for? Canucks could potentially have about $7-8 million to throw at a top 6 forward (or more if they can dump Mikheyev).

He's probably asking for 10-11m.

If Reinhart does make it to UFA—I could see Vancouver being a suitor. Especially if there is mutual hometown interest.

They would need to pay above $10m AAV and it would probably mean trading Boeser. And either dumping/buying-out Mikheyev.