Khall9
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Podcast (Audio) Do the Rangers need Eichel?
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Gardner McKay
RIP, Jimmy.
Respectfully, this is why people like Stellick are commentators and not GM's. I like Gord a lot, but he couldn't be more wrong here. Going all out for a very talented, very injured, malcontent is a Rangers of 97-04 move. An era that many of us are still trying to erase from our memories.
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KirkAlbuquerque
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Gardner McKay
RIP, Jimmy.
Was. 30 years ago.
Pierre McGuire was a GM too. Doesn't mean what he says holds water.
TheBloodyNine
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Khall9
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If the price tag came down to say Robertson Barron 1st round and second round pick so not the top young guys do you do it?
Machinehead
GoAwayTrouba
He's very, very good but I'm sorry, Eichel is not a "drop everything and figure it out later" player.
Panarin is and that's why we got him at the start of a rebuild.
Panarin is and that's why we got him at the start of a rebuild.
Thirty One
Safe is safe.
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Yes I’d do it.
But to answer the thread question No they don’t need him. Can always keep Zib and acquire someone for less
NoQuitInNewMexico
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I'd do it for a higher/fairer price than that, but it relies on so much juggling with the salary cap, so much knowledge about what the alternative options are that we don't have as fans, knowledge about his injury that we don't have that it's IMO impossible to be unconditionally gung-ho about it. But I'm sure I'm still in like the 75% percentile of wanting to make the move on HFNYR.
Matt Rentfree
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Yes, but I doubt the price is ever THAT low. The reality is that we'll for sure have to send at least one of Lundqvist/Schneider/Kravtsov the other way and I'd really like to see all three of them on NHL ice before trading any of them (Yes, I'm aware Kravtsov has played a few games but I want a bigger sample size before he's potentially moved in a trade).
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The injury makes it even more not worth the acquisition cost plus Cap implications.
A team w Bread, Trouba, Kreider salaries, plus need to re-sign Buch, Fox, Zib, Shesty and more over next 2 summers, is not the landing spot for a $10M player in the Flat Cap era.
Rather find another guy like when acquiring Zib, proven but not a star, age ~23, Cap Hit well under $3M
A team w Bread, Trouba, Kreider salaries, plus need to re-sign Buch, Fox, Zib, Shesty and more over next 2 summers, is not the landing spot for a $10M player in the Flat Cap era.
Rather find another guy like when acquiring Zib, proven but not a star, age ~23, Cap Hit well under $3M
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Riche16
McCready guitar god
CAP!!!
and do we really need another thread about damaged (possibly heavily) goods?
The Roster thread already has all we could possibly discuss about this guy.
Gardner McKay
RIP, Jimmy.
Of course. I'd want Drury fired if he didn't. That is too low to refuse... obviously pending a medical eval.
I'd even be fine with a bit more than that. But going all out implies caving to Buffalo's ask of some combination of Kakko, Laf, Lundkvist, Kravtsov, 1st.
will1066
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NYSPORTS
back afta dis. . .
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How do you test Eichel’s herniated neck?
- have him stand near the boards and smash him into them?
- have surgery and wait for 3-6 months for nerve regeneration followed by exploring his full range of motion?
Otherwise, what do you?
- have him stand near the boards and smash him into them?
- have surgery and wait for 3-6 months for nerve regeneration followed by exploring his full range of motion?
Otherwise, what do you?
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TheBloodyNine
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Of course. This offer would be like paying with change from our couch cushion. It won’t be that small.
Irishguy42
Mr. Preachy
Do the Rangers need a Top 15, arguable Top 10, player in the league?
For the price and looming injury issues?
No way
No way
Circus86
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I think Zib is the way to move forward for now. Sometimes it's easy to forget how elite he has been the last three seasons:
195 games, 199 points.
And let's not forget he had covid issues last season.
Eichel past 3 seasons:
168 games, 178 points.
I know Eichel is younger but isn't experience what we need atm?
And yes, injuries do matter. A player scores no points if he's not playing. There is a huge difference if a 5m cap hit player is injured vs. 10m cap hit player.
I'd rather be looking into upgrading our 2C.
195 games, 199 points.
And let's not forget he had covid issues last season.
Eichel past 3 seasons:
168 games, 178 points.
I know Eichel is younger but isn't experience what we need atm?
And yes, injuries do matter. A player scores no points if he's not playing. There is a huge difference if a 5m cap hit player is injured vs. 10m cap hit player.
I'd rather be looking into upgrading our 2C.
haohmaru
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Huge pass on Eichel and the assets it'll take to land him and all of the unknowns that follow. Not on that train at all.
No, not at the likely cost, both in terms of what we'd have to send out and in terms of the cap space required. And with his neck being a question mark? It's a pass for me. They have to be offering him for pennies on the dollar with salary retained, which is obviously not something that will happen.
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Maybe not, in flat Cap era, when they already have one.
Especially this guy, with a complicating health condition, carrying unknown short and long term implications.
In summer '19, before Eichel's injury, and Bread signs w NYR, the calculus mighta been different
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