News: Dorion says Talbot won't return next season

[ffh]

Anderson is available

 

[Bleedred]

No you said your shocked they’re returning,

I’m utterly shocked Dorion (and DJ) are returning next season.

and I told you no one knows if they’re returning,
Sens won’t know until new owners arrive and make that decision.
Enjoy your name calling though,

Sorry for coming across rather hostile.

I'm very shocked they're returning, but you're right, we won't know until the sale. I expect they won't be.

I would be shocked to death if they survive the new owners, unless the sale isn't completed until sometime after the start of the season.

 

[Korpse]

It was just one of many threads where Sens fans tried to sell me on Talbot and I pointed out that Minny was really insulating him. For the record, I don't think PD traded the next Rask, I just think Minnesota makes goalies look great.

That must be a different thread, because the one you linked isn't that.

Minnesota was a good landing spot for Gustavsson, much better environment for him to make that step as a full time NHL goaltender. Gustavsson is a talented goaltender, always believed in his ability but going into the season and expecting Gustavsson to provide stability would have been the bigger gamble than Talbot. That's more or less what I'm referring to when I say hindsight. I can only speak for myself but I don't even recall many Sens fans expecting Talbot to come in and be the outright starter over Forsberg, just challenge him for starts.

The Rask/Raycroft stuff is just nonsense, and isn't analogous by any means.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

That must be a different thread, because the one you linked isn't that.

Minnesota was a good landing spot for Gustavsson, much better environment for him to make that step as a full time NHL goaltender. Gustavsson is a talented goaltender, always believed in his ability but going into the season and expecting Gustavsson to provide stability would have been the bigger gamble than Talbot. That's more or less what I'm referring to when I say hindsight. I can only speak for myself but I don't even recall many Sens fans expecting Talbot to come in and be the outright starter over Forsberg, just challenge him for starts.

Here's another post to proves that no everyone needed hindsight to know Talbot was going to be bad:

Rank the Canadian Teams 2022-23

The petty Leafs-Oilers thing is so exhausting. Since the rosters have more risk/reward than most years, with the big Huberdeau trade, the goaltending carousel, etc, I would rather put them in tiers: Could Go Deep: Toronto & Edmonton Longshot but Playoffs Bound: Calgary Bubble Playoffs...

forums.hfboards.com

I guess it just stood out how negative everyone was about Murray but how positive they were about Talbot in these pre season threads. I just didn't get it, both seemed like big gambles and both failed. I didn't mind Murray when he was healthy but I don't trust him anymore. Twice he's been injured during warmups.

 

[WarriorOfGandhi]

man I didn't pay much attention to Ottawa's season and am just now seeing that they started 7 goalies this year. I'd be interested to see how Senators fans rank their performances and (for the young guns) their long-term projection with the team.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Here's another post to proves that no everyone needed hindsight to know Talbot was going to be bad:

Rank the Canadian Teams 2022-23

The petty Leafs-Oilers thing is so exhausting. Since the rosters have more risk/reward than most years, with the big Huberdeau trade, the goaltending carousel, etc, I would rather put them in tiers: Could Go Deep: Toronto & Edmonton Longshot but Playoffs Bound: Calgary Bubble Playoffs...

forums.hfboards.com

I guess it just stood out how negative everyone was about Murray but how positive they were about Talbot in these pre season threads. I just didn't get it, both seemed like big gambles and both failed. I didn't mind Murray when he was healthy but I don't trust him anymore. Twice he's been injured during warmups.

Kinda like Sens fans said, wasn’t bad when healthy, but no one listened.

In that link you posted , I see you also said this,

I bookmarked this, I'll bump it either way. We will see if Stutzle can replicate the goal creation Pat Kane produced.

Yep Suützle was great for his 20/21 year old season.

 

[MOGlLNY]

delete

 

[General Disarray]

Why does that team have a hard time finding a #1 goalie. They had Bishop, Lehner, Gustavsson and let them all go for essentially nothing. All 3 became #1 for their teams.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Why does that team have a hard time finding a #1 goalie. They had Bishop, Lehner, Gustavsson and let them all go for essentially nothing. All 3 became #1 for their teams.

Bishop and Lehrer lost the number #1 to Craig Anderson

 

[dirtydanglez]

Bishop and Lehrer lost the number #1 to Craig Anderson

all they had to show for it was cam talbot, colin white, and tobias lindberg.

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDo]

Matt Murray is available

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

It was just one of many threads where Sens fans tried to sell me on Talbot and I pointed out that Minny was really insulating him. For the record, I don't think PD traded the next Rask, I just think Minnesota makes goalies look great.

Talbot had the worst minor injury luck of his career and never got to build a rhythm. Simulate the season 100x with Talbot and 100x with Goose and I doubt there's a significant difference

 

[OmniSens]

Don't blame him

Talbot was brutal.

 

[Qward]

Love it when other fan bases rip on Sens fans like we made that trade. If we were calling the shots, I promise we never would have made half the moves Dorion has.

We are already past this. We are getting ready to lose out on the Debrincat trade next. Twice. Once when we have to trade him because he didnt want to sign with Ottawa and again when Kevin Korchinski wins the Norris with Chicago.

Try and keep up.

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Sens should check the cost on Gibson

 

[MXD]

Coaches are very, very rarely the difference between success and failure.

DJ Smith is one of these difference-makers.

The Talbot trade was a good gamble.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

Talbot just isn't a good starting goalie. I hated his last year in Edmonton he was a mental midget that was among the leaders if not the leader on first shot goals that season.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Coaches are very, very rarely the difference between success and failure.

DJ Smith is one of these difference-makers.

The Talbot trade was a good gamble.

What on earth were your expectations of the Sens that you think DJ was the cause of their failure? Absurd comment

 

[Hale The Villain]

Summer of Dorion baby

 

[SpezDispenser]

I liked it at the time. Talbot was brought in to tandem with Forsberg and I liked that it appeared he was steadily hovering around .910.

It really didn't work, obviously.

 

[Super Hans]

The career paths of Fleury/Murray/Lehner/Talbot is on some soap opera shit.

 

[SensontheRush]

Kinda like Sens fans said, wasn’t bad when healthy, but no one listened.

In that link you posted , I see you also said this,

I bookmarked this, I'll bump it either way. We will see if Stutzle can replicate the goal creation Pat Kane produced.

Yep Suützle was great for his 20/21 year old season.

Don't bother. Nihilists don't believe in anything.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Soup delivery....

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Pierre Dorion says Cam Talbot won't return next season | TSN

Ottawa Senators general manager Pierre Dorion told reporters that goaltender Cam Talbot will not be back next season.

www.tsn.ca

Yikes, this is like a modern day Rask for Raycroft level violation.

The craziest thing is Bill Guerin coming in knowing the prospect Filip was and flipping a whiny Talbot for a stud of a goalie that he was already very familiar with.

Talbot just seems like a brat of a goalie. He was all pissy that Fleury and he had to share the net in Minnesota, so he goes from a good situation where he would be a 1A or 1B to being on the Sens where he starts to pout again and now he's back on the job hunt.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I’m utterly shocked Dorion (and DJ) are returning next season.

I thought I read they had a new group that was going to buy the team and now I see nothing about it, I would wager when that goes through, they do clear house.