Player Discussion John Gibson

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I could see a potential EDM trade there but we’d probably have to take Campbell back and EDM would have to significantly add to that for it to even be considered.

I’d probably just keep Gibson.

Idk that oilers make much sense from our stand point anymore.


Sabres make sense
UPL + olofsson(cap dump) + wing prospect(Kulich, ostlund, Rosen etc )

For gibson
- Sabres have a ton of wingers coming, and not a ton of spaces we should def be targeting them…. If we can get a winger for gibson with upside that would be huge.


Devils also make sense but a lot harder to do around the cap

I think Toronto o and Detroit also could be partners.

 

[Emerald Duck]

I don’t think a Dostal/Gibson tandem the next 2-3 years is bad at all, in fact I think it’ll be above average.

Dostal’s excellent value contract makes Gibbys deal palatable

I don't think either goalie will be happy with a 2-3 year 1A/1B situation.

They are under contract and it's the team's right to manage their roster as they like, but it's not ideal for keeping both players motivated. We will know by the end of this year if Dostal is ready for a 40-50 game workload and Gibson will be closer towards the end of his contract and becomes easier to move as his contract gets shorter.

At some point Dostal will get handed the job and the team will try to move Gibson for a cheaper backup goalie and/or futures unless John stays healthy and regains his form.

 

[AngelDuck]

I don't think either goalie will be happy with a 2-3 year 1A/1B situation.

They are under contract and it's the team's right to manage their roster as they like, but it's not ideal for keeping both players motivated. We will know by the end of this year if Dostal is ready for a 40-50 game workload and Gibson will be closer towards the end of his contract and becomes easier to move as his contract gets shorter.

At some point Dostal will get handed the job and the team will try to move Gibson for a cheaper backup goalie and/or futures unless John stays healthy and regains his form.

I think this is the old school line of thinking that has been proven outdated the last couple years. 1A/1B working fine in Vegas and Boston

I don’t know how optimal it is for one guy to play 65 games anymore. You’re better off keeping guys fresh

A 55/45 or 60/40 split makes sense

 

[DavidBL]

I think this is the old school line of thinking that has been proven outdated the last couple years. 1A/1B working fine in Vegas and Boston

I don’t know how optimal it is for one guy to play 65 games anymore. You’re better off keeping guys fresh

A 55/45 or 60/40 split makes sense

I also feel that it's keeps the internal competition going

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I think this is the old school line of thinking that has been proven outdated the last couple years. 1A/1B working fine in Vegas and Boston

I don’t know how optimal it is for one guy to play 65 games anymore. You’re better off keeping guys fresh

A 55/45 or 60/40 split makes sense

We can do that was a bunch of diff goalies tho, doesn’t have to be gibson.

If gibson has positive trade value might be worth it… specially if a golaie is coming back in trade

 

[Ducks DVM]

I think this is the old school line of thinking that has been proven outdated the last couple years. 1A/1B working fine in Vegas and Boston

I don’t know how optimal it is for one guy to play 65 games anymore. You’re better off keeping guys fresh

A 55/45 or 60/40 split makes sense

Yeah, they stopped that heavy workload when it became apparent that the guys getting 60+ games were doing more poorly in the playoffs.

 

[AngelDuck]

We can do that was a bunch of diff goalies tho, doesn’t have to be gibson.

If gibson has positive trade value might be worth it… specially if a golaie is coming back in trade

Gibson doesn’t have positive trade value and never will the rest of his contract

Doesn’t mean he’s some liability for us on the ice, just the reality of a hard cap league

I think a buyout of his last 1-2 years could make some sense but paying a hefty price in assets to get rid of him right now makes zero sense

 

[Ducks DVM]

What ever happened to the dipshit who insisted Gibson was never playing another game here? Has he had any other major “scoops”?

 

[duxfan1101]

What ever happened to the dipshit who insisted Gibson was never playing another game here? Has he had any other major “scoops”?

He predicted the Ducks would finish dead last in the league this season, even when his other podcast-mates said the Sharks would be worse.

 

[Ducks DVM]

He predicted the Ducks would finish dead last in the league this season, even when his other podcast-mates said the Sharks would be worse.

 

[ADHB]

He predicted the Ducks would finish dead last in the league this season, even when his other podcast-mates said the Sharks would be worse.

He also reported that Labanc was going on waivers, which never happened, and was immediately denied by the team.

He's a hack.

 

[Henrique Iglesias]

Gibson doesn’t have positive trade value and never will the rest of his contract

Doesn’t mean he’s some liability for us on the ice, just the reality of a hard cap league

I think a buyout of his last 1-2 years could make some sense but paying a hefty price in assets to get rid of him right now makes zero sense

I still think he returns some decent value to the right team. That's why I mentioned EDM earlier. They're desperate and supposed to be in win now mode. I could see them sacrificing some of their future for Gibson.

We take Campbell and they add Holloway and a first...maybe even add more....I honestly could see them entertaining that if they keep trending in the wrong direction. Oiler fans I talk to would love to see them acquire Gibson.

The only way I see us looking at a deal like that is if Gibson wanted out. When he's been healthy, he's been a workhorse for us. Does he want to share the net with Dostal? Does he want less games? I'm genuinely curious what he thinks about that. If he is ok with being the 1B, I'd rather just keep him.

Right now I think Dostal is the better goaltender and it is only a matter of time till he's getting the bigger games.

 

[slippingsloth]

I just dont want campbell back

I would prefer keeping gibby unless we get something reasonable back. The njd or sabres thoughts at least entertain me.

To me please no long term below avg goalie contract coming back

 

[duxfan1101]

I just dont want campbell back

I would prefer keeping gibby unless we get something reasonable back. The njd or sabres thoughts at least entertain me.

To me please no long term below avg goalie contract coming back

Teams can't afford Gibson's contract unless we take a bad contract back. And a bad goalie contract is the easiest solution given he would replace their current goalie. Otherwise, he can't really go anywhere.

 

[slippingsloth]

Teams can't afford Gibson's contract unless we take a bad contract back. And a bad goalie contract is the easiest solution given he would replace their current goalie. Otherwise, he can't really go anywhere.

I understand but 5 years of soup is too much. I could stomach 1-2 years of bad goalie contract. Or a usable backup

 

[duxfan1101]

I understand but 5 years of soup is too much. I could stomach 1-2 years of bad goalie contract. Or a usable backup

Campbell's deal ends at the same time as Gibson's (4 years including this one). There really aren't any short-term bad goalie contracts that would make sense. Vanecek and Husso aren't that great, but their cap hits aren't that bad.

 

[slippingsloth]

Campbell's deal ends at the same time as Gibson's (4 years including this one). There really aren't any short-term bad goalie contracts that would make sense. Vanecek and Husso aren't that great, but their cap hits aren't that bad.

Understood. Just unless there was a real sweetener why would u want soup instead of gibby?

 

[70sSanO]

With Gibson’s contract we would have an easier time trading him to the Pittsburg Pirates as a backup catcher.

Just need to find out if he can hit a curve.

John

 

[duxfan1101]

Understood. Just unless there was a real sweetener why would u want soup instead of gibby?

You wouldn't. And the only real reason to trade Gibson, in my opinion, is if he doesn't want to be here anymore. In that scenario, I'd consider a Gibson for Campbell swap. The deal I was thinking of in my mind was something like Gibson + Jones for Campbell + Foegele + 1st/top forward prospect. The cap is about even for both sides and we get an expiring forward contract plus a good asset. You could also swap Jones for Carrick, Leason, or whoever.

 

[Henrique Iglesias]

You wouldn't. And the only real reason to trade Gibson, in my opinion, is if he doesn't want to be here anymore. In that scenario, I'd consider a Gibson for Campbell swap. The deal I was thinking of in my mind was something like Gibson + Jones for Campbell + Foegele + 1st/top forward prospect. The cap is about even for both sides and we get an expiring forward contract plus a good asset. You could also swap Jones for Carrick, Leason, or whoever.

This is what I was getting at. IF and only IF he asks out then a Gibson for Campbell++ deal makes sense. I don’t want Campbell either and would rather just keep Gibson.

 

[MMC]

The ship has sailed on a Gibson trade. I wouldn’t be shocked if his last year or two were bought out, particularly if Clang becomes an NHL option by then but a trade ain’t happening

 

[Sean Garrity]

Was fantastic tonight!

 

[slippingsloth]

938 save pct tonight. Stood on his head when we needed it to keep us in it. Gj gibby

 

[ducks8]

The ship has sailed on a Gibson trade. I wouldn’t be shocked if his last year or two were bought out, particularly if Clang becomes an NHL option by then but a trade ain’t happening

If he can keep up his play from tonight. He will definitely be on the radar for a few times, especially if the ducks retain

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

Dry humor Gibby has returned! I know he has a rep because he's more transparent about the emotions on his sleeve, so it's great to see him openly enjoying himself and having fun again.