Rumor: Shane Doan to Tampa

[Sky04]

Gourde is a cool 3rd liner but we need someone to push him out of the top-6. It's that or play Gourde at 3c (Point at 2RW) and he is terrible at faceoffs.

What we need is a Parenteau, Vanek, or Jagr to play 2rw and then hav e a killorn-point-gourde 3rd line.

Hell no to Parenteau, I assume there's a reason why no team has signed Vanek yet. Jagr wouldnt't be too bad because he still has elite hockey sense in the zone and he's better in the same role on the PP as Callahan.

 

[TampaJay]

Gourde would be fine in the top 6. Kid can play.

Gourde always has had the offensive side of the game. He led the QMJHL in scoring and won the league MVP. You don’t do that without some serious talent. He just needed to develop the rest of his game and gain some size/strength. He should definitely be tried at 2RW. Your only other choices are Point, Callahan, or maybe Vlady plays off wing. Slotting Gourde at 2RW allows you to build a 3rd scoring line around Point which creates matchup problems (ala PIT) and makes your top six more productive. Not sure Gourde can stick there, but it’s worth a shot.

 

[Todd1a]

I love Gourde but i have to agree to Robert. Hes not a top six guy, he's a bottom six guy that can be a threat to score from time too time. If we have him on the top six were going to end up hating him because we are expecting him to be something he's not.

gourde is a bottom six guy always will be I agree with robert also

 

[Sky04]

Gourde always has had the offensive side of the game. He led the QMJHL in scoring and won the league MVP. You don’t do that without some serious talent. He just needed to develop the rest of his game and gain some size/strength. He should definitely be tried at 2RW. Your only other choices are Point, Callahan, or maybe Vlady plays off wing. Slotting Gourde at 2RW allows you to build a 3rd scoring line around Point which creates matchup problems (ala PIT) and makes your top six more productive. Not sure Gourde can stick there, but it’s worth a shot.

Why would you play Point with no skilled offensive guys, look at his production before and after playing with Palat/Kucherov/Drouin.

You play him with our top-6 guys as a complimentary piece not build a line around him..he's not there yet.

 

[Felonious Python]

Gourde always has had the offensive side of the game. He led the QMJHL in scoring and won the league MVP. You don’t do that without some serious talent. He just needed to develop the rest of his game and gain some size/strength. He should definitely be tried at 2RW. Your only other choices are Point, Callahan, or maybe Vlady plays off wing. Slotting Gourde at 2RW allows you to build a 3rd scoring line around Point which creates matchup problems (ala PIT) and makes your top six more productive. Not sure Gourde can stick there, but it’s worth a shot.

He led it as an overager. Overage PM Devos was the scoring leader the previous year. The year before that it was tied between Sean Couturier and Nicolas Deschamps. Neither in their overage year. The year before that was Yannick Riendeau, another overage player.

 

[TampaJay]

He led it as an overager. Overage PM Devos was the scoring leader the previous year. The year before that it was tied between Sean Couturier and Nicolas Deschamps. Neither in their overage year. The year before that was Yannick Riendeau, another overage player.

True, but he was an overager that looked like a 15-year-old kid. Some kids take longer to mature and develop. My point was that he has the speed and skill to hang with Johnson and Palat. This is all assuming that Kuch is on the top line with Stamkos. For all we know Cooper will put Cally at 1RW. I’d just like to see them try to spread the talent and create three scoring lines. Depth scoring has been a problem.

 

[TampaJay]

Why would you play Point with no skilled offensive guys, look at his production before and after playing with Palat/Kucherov/Drouin.

You play him with our top-6 guys as a complimentary piece not build a line around him..he's not there yet.

That increase in production also coincided with moving from wing to center. Maybe he is more productive at his natural position.

 

[chasespace]

This seems like a bad idea

 

[Bolt32]

True, but he was an overager that looked like a 15-year-old kid. Some kids take longer to mature and develop. My point was that he has the speed and skill to hang with Johnson and Palat. This is all assuming that Kuch is on the top line with Stamkos. For all we know Cooper will put Cally at 1RW. IÂ’d just like to see them try to spread the talent and create three scoring lines. Depth scoring has been a problem.

Just because they dominate juniors doesn't mean they will dominate the nhl. Matter of a fact most cases they won't. Thinking Gourde as a top six guy is incredibly optimistic at best.

 

[berlin]

Would make more sense signing Vanek or Jagr.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Would make more sense signing Vanek or Jagr.

I've been pushing Vanek all summer.

 

[MattM92]

Would rather keep the extra cap space for a potential TDL move and let some Syracuse talent push their way up.

 

[LightningStrikes]

Would rather keep the extra cap space for a potential TDL move and let some Syracuse talent push their way up.

Pretty much yeah. Doan could be a nice pre-playoff acquisition but now? I don't see it.

 

[Rschmitz]

I'd be ok with a Doan signing if the idea was to get another forward. We have a self inflicted log jam already though. Still, would be very happy to have him.

 

[Todd1a]

I'd rather trade for JAM ! 750 k avv this year get him to sign a extension for 1 million AVV or 1.5 avv per year for a 2 year term extension. offer Vegas like Sustr and a 3rd rounder.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

I'd rather trade for JAM ! 750 k avv this year get him to sign a extension for 1 million AVV or 1.5 avv per year for a 2 year term extension. offer Vegas like Sustr and a 3rd rounder.

Right, Sustr and a 3rd will get us JAM.

Come on, Todd.

 

[Lord Stan 2020]

I'd rather trade for JAM ! 750 k avv this year get him to sign a extension for 1 million AVV or 1.5 avv per year for a 2 year term extension. offer Vegas like Sustr and a 3rd rounder.

1st jam doesnt play defense 2nd jam doesnt play defense 3rd jam doesnt play defense
etc.. etc... etc...

oh and yep vegas is shopping for more d

this is the kinda thing when i swear todd and lose my cool lol

 

[Sky04]

I'd rather Jagr than Doan any day of the week.

 

[FinnLightning26]

Would rather keep the extra cap space for a potential TDL move and let some Syracuse talent push their way up.

This. It allows us to react if there are some sudden holes on the roster because of injury or underperformance.

 

[Steazy Doo]

We should sign Jagr AND Doan, then package them for Marchessault and a 2nd

 

[VoluntaryDom]

We should sign Jagr AND Doan, then package them for Marchessault and a 2nd

We should sign Jagr and Doan and make a "social security line" of Kunitz-Doan-Jagr.

 

[Todd1a]

1st jam doesnt play defense 2nd jam doesnt play defense 3rd jam doesnt play defense
etc.. etc... etc...

oh and yep vegas is shopping for more d

this is the kinda thing when i swear todd and lose my cool lol

Don't need jam to play d I need him to score and provide needed scoring depth

 

[Todd1a]

Right, Sustr and a 3rd will get us JAM.

Come on, Todd.

Why not sustr is still a young d vegas could grow

 

[Todd1a]

I've been pushing Vanek all summer.

He wants to play near home he will sign with Detroit. The islanders offered vanek 50 million many years back! And vanek took 18 million to play for his home town wild.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Why not sustr is still a young d vegas could grow

Sustr is a bum and JAM is one of Vegas's only good scoring forwards.

He wants to play near home he will sign with Detroit. The islanders offered vanek 50 million many years back! And vanek took 18 million to play for his home town wild.

Not really "many" years but yeah I get it