OT: Should Doug Armstrong get fired?

[Klank Loves You]

Lol.

 

[Xanadude]

Yeah I mean his track record isn't 100% perfect but Schenn/ROR/Buch/Bozak and Perron signings/Leddy trade have all made more than trust DA. we've got a little cap space, too many defensemen and solid forward prospects that could get time. Am I sad Perron left, especially at the deal he took? yeah, sure. Am I calling for his head? hell no, especially since FA is less than a day old.

 

[parliamentlite]

In the last 15 years, only 2 teams have won the Cup without a former 1st or 2nd overall pick on their roster every game.

Only 3 teams have won it without a top pick being in their prime. Red Wings, Bruins, and the Blues. All just once. If we want to make that time range 10 years, only the Blues.

We just put up more resistance against a team that steamrolled the playoffs than anyone else, including the vaunted Lightning.

I don't like losing Perron, but wasn't it genius getting him at 4x4 when we did? DA isn't perfect but you are always fighting uphill in this league when you don't have one of the elites.

We've done an amazing job of getting undervalued talent at bargain prices in trades, the draft, and FA during his tenure. Ask a Philly, Dallas, San Jose, LA, etc. fan whether they would appreciate the same kind of sustained success.

 

[izzy]

Uh... huh

 

[WeWentBlues]

A piece of the St. Louis Blues died today. Shame on Armstrong for letting it happen and shame on Perron for chasing the money after all these years. There is no way he and his young family enjoy these next two years more living in Detroit than if he had just stayed here and gone year to year like Army did with JayBo. Think pride got I'm the way somewhat.

EDIT: Heard the interview this morning. Armstrong has gone too far with this one. What an asshole

 

[parliamentlite]

A piece of the St. Louis Blues died today. Shame on Armstrong for letting it happen and shame on Perron for chasing the money after all these years. There is no way he and his young family enjoy these next two years more living in Detroit than if he had just stayed here and gone year to year like Army did with JayBo. Think pride got I'm the way somewhat.

A part of it died, just like it did with Backes. That's the circle of life under the cap.

Thankfully the tree of the Blues is refreshing itself with good, young talents.

 

[Reality Czech]

Great satire, you should write for the Onion

 

[The Note]

I didn’t like basically anything the Blues did yesterday - aside from extending Thomas - but it’s ludicrous to think DA will or should be fired over it.

 

[jmwc95]

Perron is 34. There’s no guarantee he’s going to repeat this past season on his 35th and 36th bday.

His contract will be pretty much over on his 36th birthday.

Let me post a realistic scenario...

Say the Blues sign Perron for 4M per year and are NOT able to trade for Chychrun, Provorov, Sanheim, etc and Leddy signs with another team. Then you are back to square one. This team needs Nick Leddy more than it needs David Perron right now.

We aren’t able to trade for any of those guys anyway, and we could have had both Leddy AND Perron.

 

[jmwc95]

A part of it died, just like it did with Backes. That's the circle of life under the cap.

Thankfully the tree of the Blues is refreshing itself with good, young talents.

Backes was regressing and got overpaid on a long term deal. We gave Steen the same stupid long term deal and got burned. Perron signed for 2 years and less AAV than either of them.

 

[Louie the Blue]

Backes was regressing and got overpaid on a long term deal. We gave Steen the same stupid long term deal and got burned. Perron signed for 2 years and less AAV than either of them.

Steen was 32 first year of his contract.

Perron is 34.

 

[jmwc95]

Steen was 32 first year of his contract.

Perron is 34.

Alex Steen signed a 4 year extension for $5.75M with one year remaining on his current deal back when the cap was $73M. This is a freaking two year deal for a better player who had better numbers going into UFA for a much smaller percentage of the cap.

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

We didn’t have two young studs we wanted to extend to max term deals when we extended Steen. Plus the O’Reilly cloud hanging overhead.

 

[jmwc95]

We didn’t have two young studs we wanted to extend to max term deals when we extended Steen. Plus the O’Reilly cloud hanging overhead.

You know, if you re-signed Perron, you could always trade him next offseason.

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

You know, if you re-signed Perron, you could always trade him next offseason.

Easier said than done to trade a $4.5M+ 35 year old if he were to get another concussion or show normal age regression.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

You know, if you re-signed Perron, you could always trade him next offseason.

"Let's sign the guy so we can just jettison him off in a years time"

That's not how that works. GMs sign these players to be here their entire contract. Yes things change in the future, but signing someone for 2 years just to have already planned to trade him in a year is nonsensical.

 

[PocketNines]

A piece of the St. Louis Blues died today. Shame on Armstrong for letting it happen and shame on Perron for chasing the money after all these years. There is no way he and his young family enjoy these next two years more living in Detroit than if he had just stayed here and gone year to year like Army did with JayBo. Think pride got I'm the way somewhat.

Perron stated he never even got a formal contract offer from the Blues. What is this

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

Perron stated he never even got a formal contract offer from the Blues. What is this

Rutherford said he had a 2-year, $4M AAV extension in his hands last offseason.

 

[jmwc95]

Easier said than done to trade a $4.5M+ 35 year old if he were to get another concussion or show normal age regression.

If he gets another bad concussion, he’s out on LTIR until he retires.

 

[WeWentBlues]

Perron stated he never even got a formal contract offer from the Blues. What is this

Yes I heard the interview this morning. Need to edit my post.

 

[PocketNines]

Rutherford said he had a 2-year, $4M AAV extension in his hands last offseason.

Completely irrelevant. An entire season then occurred where he was still a major leading contributor among the forwards (who nearly all make more $). Then no formal offer.

And on top of this you're chiming in to side with the idea that 2 x 4.75 is Perron betraying the city of St. Louis and "chasing the money." Maybe instead you could look up how old Perron is before you keep adding years to his age to make your arguments sound better

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

Completely irrelevant. An entire season then occurred where he was still a major leading contributor among the forwards (who nearly all make more $). Then no formal offer.

And on top of this you're chiming in to side with the idea that 2 x 4.75 is Perron betraying the city of St. Louis and "chasing the money." Maybe instead you could look up how old Perron is before you keep adding years to his age to make your arguments sound better

I don't believe Perron is betraying the city of St. Louis and I never said anything of the sort.

 

[PocketNines]

I don't believe Perron is betraying the city of St. Louis and I never said anything of the sort.

And yet, somehow you specifically pulled out my quote which was responding to the idea Perron betrayed STL

 

[TheDizee]

Perron stated he never even got a formal contract offer from the Blues. What is this

FIRE ARMSTRONG

DIDNT EVEN OFFER CHUCKIE ONE EITHER

 

[Linkens Mastery]

FIRE ARMSTRONG

DIDNT EVEN OFFER CHUCKIE ONE EITHER

Dude, stop f***ing lying, jesus christ. Yes he did. He offered both Chucky and Joshua contracts, they both declined and wanted to test free agency.