Podcast (Audio) The Reason Gallant was fired in Vegas

[tlk]

Here is an example he straight up called Nikolay Zherdev a waste of talent.

is it really "not holding back"? i mean this is the consensus no? At least here in Russia it definitely is.

 

[NYR94]

Zherdev never felt like he'd be a Ranger for long. Just noticed that he led the Rangers in points (tied with Gomez) the one season he was here. Naslund was the other one-and-done player that season who just felt weird in a Rangers jersey.

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

Never seen somebody pull off more dangles than Zherdev. Like honestly he gave Datsyuk competition in that department.

Frustrating player but he was fun to watch when he was on. And he was on for a decent amount as a Ranger.

 

[Khall9]

Check out this weeks episode with New York Rangers prospect Jake Elmer. We talk to Jake about his path to signing with the Rangers and what his experience has been like with the organization. Really fun interview with a guy you should keep an eye on for the future.

Apple Podcast:
https://podcasts.apple.com/.../ep-27-jake.../id1550128844...
Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/7trJQSjE7Jy47ckN6qZn9G...

 

[egelband]

Elmer is still in the organization?

 

[nyr2k2]

Elmer is still in the organization?

Yeah he spent the whole year in the ECHL with Jacksonville (since Maine opted out) and he has a terrible season. A dozen points in 35 games.

 

[haohmaru]

Huh, I might've gone to an Icemen game had I known there was a Rangers "prospect" on the team.

 

[Svenhart2008]

Huh, I might've gone to an Icemen game had I known there was a Rangers "prospect" on the team.

Ive gone to several. He was terrible.

 

[haohmaru]

Ive gone to several. He was terrible.

You live in the Jacksonville area?

Never mind, I see it in your location. Cool.

 

[cwede]

Elmer is still in the organization?

Still signed for next, too

 

[nyr2k2]

He played his last year in Lethbridge with Cozens. There were questions about whether he was a legitimate prospect or just a passenger to better players. Several people spoke highly of him though, so it seemed like a worthwhile gamble. He didn't work out. Not harm no foul.

 

[Khall9]

Not your typical NY Rangers podcast guest but he is in the know out in Vegas and had some great insight on Gallant. Tells the story behind the Gallant firing which I think is Rangers fans biggest concern. Also is probably the most famous poker player in the world, he tells some good stories. ‎The Broadway Hat Podcast: Ep. 28- Daniel Negreanu on Apple Podcasts

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Interesting interview thanks. Also, pretty nostalgic for me I used to watch the WSOP regularly around the mid 2000s. Not really Ranger related, haha.

 

[huerter]

Yea but can you book Fitz?

 

[Inferno]

Yea but can you book Fitz?

 

[Khall9]

What do you think about this explanation behind Gallant getting fired in Vegas?

 

[Levitate]

could someone summarize in this thread?

 

[tailgunner]

If Gallant is a coach who doesn't embrace analytics then he is my coach

Analytics in hockey are useless other than matching lines which every coach has done in the history of hockey

 

[n8]

Didn't Doug McLean say he was forced to fire Gallant in CLB by the owner? No reason stated there IIRC

 

[Fitzy]

The summary is that Vegas went full analytics, and Gallant didn't always play the guys management wanted him to play most of the time.

So, "Gallant kinda guys" will absolutely be a thing just like every other coach in the NHL has their preferred players. A computer isn't going to produce the lineup every game.

 

[NYR Viper]

He is guessing to a certain degree as he wasn't in the room:
A few weeks prior to being fired, he was due for a new contract. He was called in to the office after a 4 game losing streak and he assumed it was for a contract extension but the feeling was that they didn't feel like Gallant was utilizing the analytic team they had on staff enough. Shipashov and Tatar kind of the straw that broke the camels back in that sense. The owner went out and paid big money to get those two guys who analytics said would help the team and Gallant didn't like how they fit. Specifically with Tatar when he was brought in and the team was a cohesive group, Gallant didn't feel he had earned the right to play over some of 'his' guys who went all out and played well for him even though the analytics may have said otherwise.

 

[Raspewtin]

So Gallant got fired 2 years after he allegedly didn't play two players? Uh huh lol

If Gallant is a coach who doesn't embrace analytics then he is my coach

Analytics in hockey are useless other than matching lines which every coach has done in the history of hockey

I regret to inform you that Gallant's teams have had outstanding analytics from his first year in Florida to his firing in Vegas

 

[duhmetreE]

Was it Florida or Vegas, where the analytics team was calling him mid period with line changes?

I believe it though.. Analytics nerds get extremely egotistical... they would be the types to call you mid period and insist they know more than you

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

So Gallant got fired 2 years after he allegedly didn't play two players? Uh huh lol

I regret to inform you that Gallant's teams have had outstanding analytics from his first year in Florida to his firing in Vegas

Yeah and Shipachyov was dealing with a lot of personal drama at the time as well so I am not sure how much that affected him, and his performance in practice.

 

[Thirty One]

So, "Gallant kinda guys" will absolutely be a thing just like every other coach in the NHL has their preferred players. A computer isn't going to produce the lineup every game.

Fire Gallant.