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Tarasenko: most dollar store player of all time
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Kakko's always been a player that needs help 5v5 to generate offense. He's hardly unique that way, especially on this team. What's great about him is that he's found a way to be a consistently positive player for us 5v5 in spite of that. Lafreniere needed how many chances to break out this year? It clicked with him and Panarin. Wish we had two Panarins but we don't: we've got a Mika, who also needs a ton of help to generate offense 5v5, and never moreso than this year.What he does is intriguing. Like I said, it's just, I really don't know what to do with him. There's a lot of guys I don't want him with.
The line doesn't need to score much. I just don't want to feel like there's no chance. Maybe Chytil gives them a spark.
In Kakko's defense, Wennberg is also f***ing terrible at offense. He's Kakko at center.
Kakko's always been a player that needs help 5v5 to generate offense. He's hardly unique that way, especially on this team. What's great about him is that he's found a way to be a consistently positive player for us 5v5 in spite of that. Lafreniere needed how many chances to break out this year? It clicked with him and Panarin. Wish we had two Panarins but we don't: we've got a Mika, who also needs a ton of help to generate offense 5v5, and never moreso than this year.
Contrary to your point, Kakko and Chytil have consistently put up strong GF numbers together the last two seasons. Chytil's numbers improve with Kakko, some seasons more than the reverse.
Our highest scoring line at 5v5 with just a smidge over 60 minutes played was our loaded up trio of 20-93-10. What was our second highest? 50-22-24. So there are players and lines that score with Kakko, and not in spite of him, but in part because of him.
Problem is, throughout his career, Kakko cannot be left in a spot where it's clicking. It always gets blown up. Look what a difference it made to put Laf on that line and leave him there. He had stretches this year where it seemed like he could have 100 great scoring chances and have a line of 0-3-3. He kept improving, he kept gaining confidence and figuring out how to improve his efficiency, and he's had a great 2nd half and postseason.
I guess that's what's interesting to me... Kakko has the more impressive resume overall of driving lines. I think this year was just tough for a number of reasons. He gets hurt, his most consistent running mate misses the season, and unfortunately, Mika decided from game 1 to turn in the most pathetic regular season of his career. Just the way it crumbles. I think it could've been a very different story is Laviolette had decided the lines to start the year were 20-93-13 and 10-72-24. Not that I care to find out how different.Yep. Laf will likely become a line driver in the future after the current core is gone. Kakko doesn't appear to be a line driver at all. But he mixes well with Chytil and they've always complemented each other. The other thing, and which can't be measured, is Kakko can't get out of his own head.
I agree with this.Kakko's always been a player that needs help 5v5 to generate offense. He's hardly unique that way, especially on this team. What's great about him is that he's found a way to be a consistently positive player for us 5v5 in spite of that. Lafreniere needed how many chances to break out this year? It clicked with him and Panarin. Wish we had two Panarins but we don't: we've got a Mika, who also needs a ton of help to generate offense 5v5, and never moreso than this year.
Contrary to your point, Kakko and Chytil have consistently put up strong GF numbers together the last two seasons. Chytil's numbers improve with Kakko, some seasons more than the reverse.
Our highest scoring line at 5v5 with just a smidge over 60 minutes played was our loaded up trio of 20-93-10. What was our second highest? 50-22-24. So there are players and lines that score with Kakko, and not in spite of him, but in part because of him.
Problem is, throughout his career, Kakko cannot be left in a spot where it's clicking. It always gets blown up. Look what a difference it made to put Laf on that line and leave him there. He had stretches this year where it seemed like he could have 100 great scoring chances and have a line of 0-3-3. He kept improving, he kept gaining confidence and figuring out how to improve his efficiency, and he's had a great 2nd half and postseason.
Up in the Blue Seats Podcast. Mollie Walker, Brian Boyle and HHOF Larry Brooks:
Yeah the whole fawning over Brian bit is exhausting to listen to tbhI really like Boyle, but hard to take Mollie seriously. She's a total stoner or just a puck bunny.
Honestly, their EV scoring numbers were VERY open to criticism.The team won the President's Trophy. Kreider and Mika had moments this season that made me tear my hair out (Mika dropping his stick in OT against the Sharks, wtf was that?) but they were criticized far to harshly imo. It's not like these are guys trying to prove themselves to our fanbase. They have a lifetime of good play on this team to fall back on, and now they are ripping it up in the playoffs again.
man don't say that shit, it's sexist and disrespectful to someone who has been working hard in a profession that's not easy these days and historically treats women in it like shit.I really like Boyle, but hard to take Mollie seriously. She's a total stoner or just a puck bunny.
Kakko is obviously good at some things, otherwise the analytics wouldn't say what they do.
If he just did his thing and didn't score as an individual, I wouldn't even care. My problem with him is that he poisons the line. Nobody scores.
Bullshit...if she wants to be taken seriously, she should act like a professional instead of a 17 year old fangirl.man don't say that shit, it's sexist and disrespectful to someone who has been working hard in a profession that's not easy these days and historically treats women in it like shit.
your second graph is game 1 not series price which is -140It's bizarre. Florida is generally the favorite:
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Yet our series with them is as coin toss as it gets:
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Tomorrow.Any idea what the D pairings will look like tonight?
I still think we should have swept them. Then chytil brought disease.Carolina are the best analytics team in the league. We played them even at 5v5.
And this isn't like one weird model on Twitter, like, you can see it on NaturalStatTrick. We straight up played them even.
If you believe the same metrics, we played Washington even too.
That's how we are. We kind of settle in where our opponents are. I think we do it to conserve energy. Carolina blew multi-goal leads more than once. We blew zero. Our only bad third was in game 5. 2-0 in overtime. We had more legs than they did.
We're content to break even and rely on Igor and special teams. You can't get killed 5v5 and rely on those things. You can certainly break even and rely on those things. Teams have won the Cup doing it.
Obviously, we can elevate when we want to. We just did it.
I'm not saying we're gonna win the Cup because it's hard now, but I was seriously impressed with how we played Carolina.
We really need to get him unstrapped from the Lindenberg.I still think we should have swept them. Then chytil brought disease.
All year we just find ways to win.
Now we have chytil back… a massive piece to our 5v5 production. We also have Fox who has yet to play to his level. I could easily see Fox have a 10pts series.
All of Carolina’s top guys had productive series. Aho had 9pts.Eh, I see this series going 7 on paper with it being a coin toss. Florida has better top end talent than Carolina.
your second graph is game 1 not series price which is -140
Are we sure? Because Barclay Goodrow has more points than him.Very much so