Team Board Mck Draft

Who will the Sabres take?

  • Sacha Boisvert, C, North Dakota (NCA

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  • Andrew Basha, F, Medicine Hat (WHL)

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  • Igor Chernyshov, LW, Dynamo Moscow (KHL)

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  • Trevor Connelly, LW, Providence (NCAA)

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  • Alfons Freij, D, Vaxjo (SWE)

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  • Total voters
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Gabrielor

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How small is Helenius?
Helenius is 5'11" 181. Average size, probably slightly below at C.

Who plays with piss and vinegar out of this group? I'm willing to change my vote

Benson does.
Savoie isn't a mixer-upper, but goes to dirty areas.

Kulich does not.
Rosen does not.

Ostlund doesn't based on an incredibly small NA side, check back with me in December 2024 when I see about 20 Amerks games.


Helenius to me is another Savoie pick, --speed, +iq. This is no knock on the prospect. In different circumstances in terms of the organizational depth chart, I'd be pounding the table for him over Yak. In this battle, however, tie goes to the big RD to me.

5'11 190lbs thereabouts so average size. If you want true piss and vinegar you need to go with Surin. Chernysov plays like Necas in that he uses his frame to protect the puck but doesn't hammer people
Surin is my Kulich/Wahlberg/I hope 43 is moved up for him.
 
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Ace

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I just don’t think a D in our situation can be in a tie with a C in our situation. Even if he’s right handed.

Here’s what the Sabres have at C:

Tage coming off a bad year with mounting injuries.
Cozens playing out of position because he isn’t a center
Krebs…ha
Ostlund who knows

That’s it

I can go that deep on D with much higher end on top…and three of them are already signed forever. They just traded a C for the fourth one.

If this was a tie I’d go with the center. Couldnt care less what size the wingers they’ve drafted are.

They’ve got one guy who is an NHL center in the organization right now…and he’s not a #1 but has to play there. I’ve got all the investment in top 4 D. Unless this is another route for an hilarious misguided request to trade Owen Power. Those never get old.
 
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Beerz

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Helenius is 5'11" 181. Average size, probably slightly below at C.



Benson does.
Savoie isn't a mixer-upper, but goes to dirty areas.

Kulich does not.
Rosen does not.

Ostlund doesn't based on an incredibly small NA side, check back with me in December 2024 when I see about 20 Amerks games.


Helenius to me is another Savoie pick, --speed, +iq. This is no knock on the prospect. In different circumstances in terms of the organizational depth chart, I'd be pounding the table for him over Yak. In this battle, however, tie goes to the big RD to me.


Surin is my Kulich/Wahlberg/I hope 43 is moved up for him.

I meant who plays with piss n vinegar out of the group of prospects to be picked
 

Gabrielor

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I just don’t think a D in our situation can be in a tie with a C in our situation. Even if he’s right handed.

Here’s what the Sabres have at C:

Tage coming off a bad year with mounting injuries.
Cozens playing out of position because he isn’t a center
Krebs…ha
Ostlund who knows

That’s it

I can go that deep on much better D and three of them are already signed forever.

If this was a tie I’d go with the center.
Savoie is a center. Maybe not immediately, but then again, Helenius is no more an immediate center than Savoie.

They also played Kulich a ton at C all year in Roch. He was miserable, brutal in the postseason, but it wasn't in March and April.

I meant who plays with piss n vinegar out of the group of prospects to be picked
Yakemchuk with a large lead (he plays mean)....followed by probably Eiserman, honestly. He's got some of that dirtbag in him.
 
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spfan

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They need a RHD and Parekh has very high upside,
Though trading the pick might be the actual best move though. They're full of young players and prospects.
 

dickiedunnwrotethis

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They need a RHD and Parekh has very high upside,
Though trading the pick might be the actual best move though. They're full of young players and prospects.
He has high, high bust potential due to not not knowing how to play defense and being contact adverse. There are plenty of RD prospects to be found in the 2nd round.
 

57special

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Feels like Sabres have to take Yakemchuk, or maybe go for the HR in Sennecke. Helenius if they want to play it safe.
 

spfan

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He has high, high bust potential due to not not knowing how to play defense and being contact adverse. There are plenty of RD prospects to be found in the 2nd round.
Could be a bust yeah, but any player can be too. So called safe players have failed too.

Byram-Dahlin
Power-Parekh would be scary

They should honestly trade the pick anyways though. Buffalo needs to take the next step.
 

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I'm leaning towards Sennecke over Helenuis and Yakemchuk here. I'd be fine with any of the 3....and I honestly see the argument for Helenuis. I'm just siding with the bigger forward who uses his size.
 

Fjordy

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Could be a bust yeah, but any player can be too. So called safe players have failed too.

Byram-Dahlin
Power-Parekh would be scary

They should honestly trade the pick anyways though. Buffalo needs to take the next step.
Well, with this defense, maybe we will score five goals in a game, but we will concede eight, Parekh makes no sense.
 

Reddawg

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They need a RHD and Parekh has very high upside,
Though trading the pick might be the actual best move though. They're full of young players and prospects.
I went with Parekh as well, I see a fit there bigtime and he and Dahlin together would be utter playmaking magic.
 

TageGod

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Think were drunk to not trade #11 at this point. KA will be fired before he sees this kid in Sabres uniform.
 

spfan

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I went with Parekh as well, I see a fit there bigtime and he and Dahlin together would be utter playmaking magic.
I think him and Power might make more sense. And then Byram-Dahlin. But I don't know if Parekh will realistically be available at their pick anyways, but it's possible.

Well, with this defense, maybe we will score five goals in a game, but we will concede eight, Parekh makes no sense.
Dahlin, Power, Byram can improve their defensive games over time too. Even if you don't believe in Parekh, you've got 3 other top d-men to help him. Another forward doesn't make much sense either.
In this scenario, I go Parekh, but I think they should really just trade the pick.
 

spfan

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Scary? Scary for their own goalie.
Dahlin, Power, Byram can improve their defensive games over time too. Even if you don't believe in Parekh, they still got them.
Their coaching change might improve their underperformances in recent times.
But as I've said, trading the pick altogether might be the actual best move anyways.
 

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Dahlin, Power, Byram can improve their defensive games over time too. Even if you don't believe in Parekh, they still got them.
Their coaching change might improve their underperformances in recent times.
But as I've said, trading the pick altogether might be the actual best move anyways.
You're definitely wrong, trading the pick is stupid. The smart move would be to trade from their plethora of blue chip wing prospects as they're all on the same basic timeline. The 1st would optimally spend 2yrs in their current league, followed by a year in Rochester to then come in as a minimum salary replacement
 

spfan

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You're definitely wrong, trading the pick is stupid. The smart move would be to trade from their plethora of blue chip wing prospects as they're all on the same basic timeline. The 1st would optimally spend 2yrs in their current league, followed by a year in Rochester to then come in as a minimum salary replacement
Those players are further along though and could help sooner in a contending window than whoever they'd pick this year.
11th + whatever else(Rosen/Ostlund) for Saros.

Sure, you could just do Rosen, Ostlund and Kulich for Saros or something, but losing 11th overall isn't a bigger loss really, depending on the package.
 

Old Navy Goat

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Those players are further along though and could help sooner in a contending window than whoever they'd pick this year.
11th + whatever else(Rosen/Ostlund) for Saros.

Sure, you could just do Rosen, Ostlund and Kulich for Saros or something, but losing 11th overall isn't a bigger loss really, depending on the package.
Once again you're wrong. First off they don't need a Saros, they need a competent backup for UPL. The issue you're neglecting is in the immediate situation they need defensive wingers / C to fill the bottom 6. There is no room for Rosen or Kulich so much better to move them and replenish the pool with something different than a sub 6' offense first winger
 

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