GDT: Free Agent Frenzy 2020 12PM EST

[stppnmd]

I think we will grab a divisional playoff seed. Montreal will be nipping at our heels though. It wouldn't surprise me if they finished above Toronto. The only thing that scares me is if they re-align into 4 new divisions just for next season. I saw one article where they had us in the same division as Tampa, Carolina, Dallas, Washington, and Philly. Please god no.

At least we would be contending for a 1st overall in the 2021 Draft...

 

[MillarWithASave]

It’s crazy how many bigger FA’s still haven’t signed and which ones might not get a deal due to cap problems.

I’m hoping we pick up Granlund or Galchenyuk if we don’t get Hoffman or Dads.

 

[GermanPanther]

If we’re trading Barky and Huby I can certainly guarantee Ekblad will be going as well. He’s great but not THAT great.

When a Team are willed to go for an complete rebuild every Player will be informed. So no surprise trades are happen.

 

[GermanPanther]

Florida is now in a Situation where you must sign re-sign a top scorer.
Since hall joined Buffalo and maybe built the strongest line in the League. Hall-Eichel-skinner.
Toffoli a productive player joined MTL. what gives them an upgrade to there roster.

We added needed Defensman strength. But need now a scorer. as I mention the season. Hoffman, Dadonov, Yandle are all in the Top 5 Scoreing for the Panthers. Looseing Dadonov and Hoffman would be a serious step back.

 

[floridada]

So who's available from the Knights? Should be had for peanuts similarly to Schmidt.

Wasn't Pacioretti really close to getting traded at the draft?

 

[austropanther]

Pietrangelo signs seven-year, $61.6 million contract with Golden Knights
Sent with @Nhl

 

[GrumpyKelly]

Wasn't Pacioretti really close to getting traded at the draft?

Yeah I guess but he's making 7 million. I'm not sure I'm down with that for three more years.

 

[RainingRats]

the longer Zito waits, the lower the prices should be for UFAs. I think his first mistake was signing Gudas so quickly. I doubt he would have been given a comparable offer but it's not that big of a deal. It's insane Matheson was able to be moved considering the current environment.

 

[Thomas Colavecchio]

I have no basis for this comment other than opinion, but I believe the Schmidt deal did not happen because the Panthers could not move Stralman to create the space on the D side.

Without moving Stralman's $$, and assuming the intention always has been to keep Weegar, the CAP would have been compromised to allow one of Hoff or Dads to be added to the F Group.

The delay for the forward move is now curious, since Hall's signing has set the upper limit.
Hoffman seems to me to be the Team's preference, as Dads number should be less in terms of real $ and maybe term as well. If Dads was their first choice, after Toffoli signed he could have been already done.

 

[IceManCat]

the longer Zito waits, the lower the prices should be for UFAs. I think his first mistake was signing Gudas so quickly. I doubt he would have been given a comparable offer but it's not that big of a deal. It's insane Matheson was able to be moved considering the current environment.

I'm not ready to sing anyone praises yet but wow moving Matheson was near impossible and he did it quickly

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

the longer Zito waits, the lower the prices should be for UFAs. I think his first mistake was signing Gudas so quickly. I doubt he would have been given a comparable offer but it's not that big of a deal. It's insane Matheson was able to be moved considering the current environment.

Or, just perhaps, Hornqvist is vastly overrated at his age and JR was willing to gamble a bit as his tenure as the Pens GM is coming to its end.

 

[SoupyFIN]

So who's available from the Knights? Should be had for peanuts similarly to Schmidt.

I wonder how long the unity will last, even with the team being a perennial contender for at least the next 3 seasons.

Fleury, face of the franchise the first couple years, one foot out the door already and they're forced to keep him because no one wants that contract without an incentive. Now Lehner is questionable for the beginning of the season, "nah we aren't trading Fleury (in other word, we don't want to pay the price to get rid of him)".

Schmidt, who was an important piece for them the past 3 years, out the door you go as we need to make room for a new guy (pretty good new guy, but still).

Marchessault was in trade rumours this past season. Pacioretty was almost dealt at the draft. Martinez IIRC was rumoured to be available a few weeks ago. Tatar was dealt 6 months after acquiring him. Stastny had better offers on the table when he signed there, traded away.

I would think eventually treating your players like cattle will catch up to you.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

I wonder how long the unity will last, even with the team being a perennial contender for at least the next 3 seasons.

Fleury, face of the franchise the first couple years, one foot out the door already and they're forced to keep him because no one wants that contract without an incentive. Now Lehner is questionable for the beginning of the season, "nah we aren't trading Fleury (in other word, we don't want to pay the price to get rid of him)".

Schmidt, who was an important piece for them the past 3 years, out the door you go as we need to make room for a new guy (pretty good new guy, but still).

Marchessault was in trade rumours this past season. Pacioretty was almost dealt at the draft. Martinez IIRC was rumoured to be available a few weeks ago. Tatar was dealt 6 months after acquiring him. Stastny had better offers on the table when he signed there, traded away.

I would think eventually treating your players like cattle will catch up to you.

Furthermore, teams get stale really quick in this league. They'd really could use a guy like Suzuki in their top6 but ofc this is easy to say in hindsight. Having the option of adding one or two new guys into the lineup at the beginning of every season is imo the best approach.

 

[floridada]

I have no basis for this comment other than opinion, but I believe the Schmidt deal did not happen because the Panthers could not move Stralman to create the space on the D side.

Without moving Stralman's $$, and assuming the intention always has been to keep Weegar, the CAP would have been compromised to allow one of Hoff or Dads to be added to the F Group.

This is what I was afraid of too.

 

[RainingRats]

Or, just perhaps, Hornqvist is vastly overrated at his age and JR was willing to gamble a bit as his tenure as the Pens GM is coming to its end.

Hornqvist is on the decline but will still produce and won't be a massive liability like Matheson. He's expensive for his role but there is an obvious net gain for us in the trade.

 

[RainingRats]

I have no basis for this comment other than opinion, but I believe the Schmidt deal did not happen because the Panthers could not move Stralman to create the space on the D side.

Without moving Stralman's $$, and assuming the intention always has been to keep Weegar, the CAP would have been compromised to allow one of Hoff or Dads to be added to the F Group.

The delay for the forward move is now curious, since Hall's signing has set the upper limit.
Hoffman seems to me to be the Team's preference, as Dads number should be less in terms of real $ and maybe term as well. If Dads was their first choice, after Toffoli signed he could have been already done.

If it was about money they could move Matheson. Schmidt was probably seen as a nice to have and Schmidt may have had the most influence in the trade.

 

[16Skippy]

It would have been hard to trade Stralman before, but with this covid cap it might be impossible without adding a lot.

I mean people aren’t taking Tyler Johnson for free at 5 mil, can’t image anyone wanting Strals and that price.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

It would have been hard to trade Stralman before, but with this covid cap it might be impossible without adding a lot.

I mean people aren’t taking Tyler Johnson for free at 5 mil, can’t image anyone wanting Strals and that price.

Stralman isn't as bad as ppl make him to be. He took a lot of d-zone starts, PK minutes, and played against the top lines which equates to top4 dman performance but he's getting old and slow.

 

[Dread Clawz]

Stralman isn't as bad as ppl make him to be. He took a lot of d-zone starts, PK minutes, and played against the top lines which equates to top4 dman performance but he's getting old and slow.

He's fine, but at that price tag for 2 years it's a hard sell. If you literally cut his contract on half, 2.25 M for a year he'd be an easy move.

 

[Chessarmy]

I know hindsight is 20/20, but good night Dale overpaid for Stralman and especially Bobrovsky last offseason. Holy shit.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

He's fine, but at that price tag for 2 years it's a hard sell. If you literally cut his contract on half, 2.25 M for a year he'd be an easy move.

If his salary was 2.25 then there wouldn't be any discussions about him because he'd be a decent depth guy. I mean Dallas went to the finals with Sekera on board and he did his job well enough.

 

[Dread Clawz]

If his salary was 2.25 then there wouldn't be any discussions about him because he'd be a decent depth guy. I mean Dallas went to the finals with Sekera on board and he did his job well enough.

That's what I mean, he'd be good value at that price. It's only that his contract is double what his value really is and that blocks other necessary moves.

 

[16Skippy]

Stralman isn't as bad as ppl make him to be. He took a lot of d-zone starts, PK minutes, and played against the top lines which equates to top4 dman performance but he's getting old and slow.

I agree he’s not that bad. But with the new market he went from being a little over paid to wayyy over paid

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

That's what I mean, he'd be good value at that price. It's only that his contract is double what his value really is and that blocks other necessary moves.

Well, the only necessary move, even prior to the Math-trade, is to trade Yandle away. To extrapolate the situation a bit... if the Cats had two other Yandle-type guys with similar money it would mean that there's less money to spend on the other defensemen and thus you can't point some $1mil fringe NHLer and say that he's blocking necessary moves (even tho I'm aware that at $1mil he'd be easy to move but rather make my point).

 

[Dread Clawz]

Well, the only necessary move, even prior to the Math-trade, is to trade Yandle away. To extrapolate the situation a bit... if the Cats had two other Yandle-type guys with similar money it would mean that there's less money to spend on the other defensemen and thus you can't point some $1mil fringe NHLer and say that he's blocking necessary moves (even tho I'm aware that at $1mil he'd be easy to move but rather make my point).

No, there's lots of necessary moves...2C, 2W for starters.